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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Please forgive my apparent ignorance but with Australia and the UK have the same Westminster system as the basis of government at the state, territory and federal level.

So, if so many of Boris's ministers have resigned, is he not now a minority government, hence, not able to govern?
Or, are those who have quit, now 'independents' thus holding the balance of power?

49 now and a sacking
 
Please forgive my apparent ignorance but with Australia and the UK have the same Westminster system as the basis of government at the state, territory and federal level.

So, if so many of Boris's ministers have resigned, is he not now a minority government, hence, not able to govern?
Or, are those who have quit, now 'independents' thus holding the balance of power?

No, pretty sure they have all resigned from their ministerial positions, but not as Conservative MPs. Just means his Ministers are jumping ship, but doesn't affect his majority.
 
No, pretty sure they have all resigned from their ministerial positions, but not as Conservative MPs. Just means his Ministers are jumping ship, but doesn't affect his majority.

Absolutely correct… but if he wants to put things through parliament he’s unlikely to be able get the votes now.
 
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Maybe...maybe not.

But who can say until they are given a chance


I have to say...no one...but no one ....Tory, Labour, Lib Dem...or even the monster looney party ) could be as bad on the moral, ignoring facts, glossing over things as Boris...and I expect the next PM/Tory leader...to be so so much better.

I may not agree with Tory politics Col but I can appreciate people who try to do that honestly and correctly ( Kenneth Clark, Lawson for example).

If the tories get in a honest Tory...I will contest their policies...but I will not contest their person...as I have done for Boris...for over 2 years.


Boris is scum...( that is nothing to do with whom he represents)

always needed a revolution to get U.K. politics in order hopefully this is such a thing
I always have harped on re the difference I have seen in France here … people in office have to serve the people and sadly that has been forgotten in the U.K. system

hope this comedy now stops as U.K. laughing stock now and it was obvious it would go that way under the Cons
 
Please forgive my apparent ignorance but with Australia and the UK have the same Westminster system as the basis of government at the state, territory and federal level.

So, if so many of Boris's ministers have resigned, is he not now a minority government, hence, not able to govern?
Or, are those who have quit, now 'independents' thus holding the balance of power?

They are cancelling committee meetings for legislation left right and centre because there aren't any ministers to attend the meetings. Doubt he'd win many votes. He still has enough Tory MPs on paper to govern, but in reality we don't have a government right now.
 
Time to say it
Conservatives have been corrupt and useless it’s fact and history now
Labour possibly as bad
Brexit well that will take a bit more time I guess for the penny to drop for many but Europe is just getting stronger and before I retired the amount of corporations I had personally witnessed move away from the U.K. was in its thousands
irreversible now sadly and will take 15 years or more to stabilise

what a mess it has all become
The U.K. people were tricked
 
Time to say it
Conservatives have been corrupt and useless it’s fact and history now
Labour possibly as bad
Brexit well that will take a bit more time I guess for the penny to drop for many but Europe is just getting stronger and before I retired the amount of corporations I had personally witnessed move away from the U.K. was in its thousands
irreversible now sadly and will take 15 years or more to stabilise

what a mess it has all become
The U.K. people were tricked

Agree. I've watched from Paris as more and more businesses have left the UK and moved to mainland Europe. There are still those who say it is too early to tell with Brexit, but I fear that they'll be saying that for years to come as a way of hiding the disappointment of how it has panned out.

All just quite sad to see.
 
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Agree. I've watched from Paris as more and more businesses have left the UK and moved to mainland Europe. There are still those who say it is too early to tell with Brexit, but I fear that they'll be saying that for years to come as a way of hiding the disappointment of how it has panned out.

All just quite sad to see.

What I find astounding is most of those public figures including politicians who championed leaving have done this, surely that’s a massive red flag.
 
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Thanks for the replies……which leads to the next question, if the party doesn’t like it’s leader, they oust him or her and chose a new leader…… and continue to govern.

Why don’t they oust him?
A simple vote.