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Have been watching the "liaisons committee " on GB News.

It has been fascinating.


Only down side are the people who email in with the " poor Boris"..." you shouldn't follow people into pubs to see what they do with " consulting " adults!!".

But for info GB news is good

You could have watched it on BBC or Sky without the emails, Beth.
 
I have to say that watching the absolute glee of our leftie cabal on here, salivating over the imminent demise of Johnson and the Tories is hugely entertaining.
I said Boris should go many, many months ago and this Tory government is, on the whole having a bit of a mare.

At some point, the wonderful Labour party/Liberals will get their chance.

That should be equally entertaining.

If you wanted Johnson to go, you should be gleeful too, Col.
 
Maybe...maybe not.

But who can say until they are given a chance


I have to say...no one...but no one ....Tory, Labour, Lib Dem...or even the monster looney party ) could be as bad on the moral, ignoring facts, glossing over things as Boris...and I expect the next PM/Tory leader...to be so so much better.

I may not agree with Tory politics Col but I can appreciate people who try to do that honestly and correctly ( Kenneth Clark, Lawson for example).

If the tories get in a honest Tory...I will contest their policies...but I will not contest their person...as I have done for Boris...for over 2 years.


Boris is scum...( that is nothing to do with whom he represents)

No one worse than Boris? Unfortunately I think there are worse than him in this world today. 2 still in power at least, plus Trump.
 
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Maybe...maybe not.

But who can say until they are given a chance


I have to say...no one...but no one ....Tory, Labour, Lib Dem...or even the monster looney party ) could be as bad on the moral, ignoring facts, glossing over things as Boris...and I expect the next PM/Tory leader...to be so so much better.

I may not agree with Tory politics Col but I can appreciate people who try to do that honestly and correctly ( Kenneth Clark, Lawson for example).

If the tories get in a honest Tory...I will contest their policies...but I will not contest their person...as I have done for Boris...for over 2 years.


Boris is scum...( that is nothing to do with whom he represents)

This. I don't think May, Cameron or Thatcher had the same dreadful character failings that Johnson has. Nor Blair or Brown. I'd say Major too but some may fairly point to his affair. All of the above had a shred of decency that Johnson just doesn't have.
 
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This. I don't think May, Cameron or Thatcher had the same dreadful character failings that Johnson has. Nor Blair or Brown. I'd say Major too but some may fairly point to his affair. All of the above had a shred of decency that Johnson just doesn't have.
If the Tory party can’t get its act together and bin him and he doesn’t walk of his own accord, can the opposition engineer a no confidence vote in him as PM rather than the government, which would get most of the Tory MPs voting with it?

I’m not a constitutional expert, and I’m sure you know more than me.
 
This. I don't think May, Cameron or Thatcher had the same dreadful character failings that Johnson has. Nor Blair or Brown. I'd say Major too but some may fairly point to his affair. All of the above had a shred of decency that Johnson just doesn't have.

might have to do with him and the likes of Mogg seem to have a competition of who can make more personal wealth from Tory policy
 
If the Tory party can’t get its act together and bin him and he doesn’t walk of his own accord, can the opposition engineer a no confidence vote in him as PM rather than the government, which would get most of the Tory MPs voting with it?

I’m not a constitutional expert, and I’m sure you know more than me.

If a no confidence vote is passed in the HoC, from memory, a new Govt using any make up from the current HoC would have 14 days to win a new confidence vote. So would require a new PM at breakneck speed or a caretaker.
 
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You could have watched it on BBC or Sky without the emails, Beth.
I tried and couldn't.
GB News showed the liason committe direct and without comment.

The emails came after.


I am grown up enough to watch a factual broadcast and make my own mind up about what I have seen

( and yes ..at points I was squirming for Boris...they ripped him apart. )

But those little squirms were quickly replaced by horror by his immediate response back into arrogance.
He is not normal..he ignores criticism.
His self belief and loathing of others is unbelievable
 
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I tried and couldn't.
GB News showed the liason committe direct and without comment.

The emails came after.


I am grown up enough to watch a factual broadcast and make my own mind up about what I have seen

( and yes ..at points I was squirming for Boris...they ripped him apart. )

But those little squirms were quickly replaced by horror by his immediate response back into arrogance.
He is not normal..he ignores criticism.
His self belief and loathing of others is unbelievable

BBC and Sky both showed it without comment, too.

It was horrific, though. I almost felt sorry for Johnson, but managed to resist it. He's a narcissistic sociopath.
 
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BBC and Sky both showed it without comment, too.

It was horrific, though. I almost felt sorry for Johnson, but managed to resist it. He's a narcissistic sociopath.
When I started BBC 1 and 2 were showing Wimbledon.
Haven't got Sky...so wouldn't know on that
 
So you have record numbers of resignations from the cabinet, and then you sack one of the ones who have actually stayed...? Don't get that.