7 drive by shootings by gang members in auckland the other night
pretty much theonly people here with guns now are criminals
pretty much theonly people here with guns now are criminals
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In our local paper today, here in Oz ............
Australia - 262 gun-related deaths this year.
America - 40,000 plus, this year.
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AMERICA
Texas - When you have to take a gun to church for safety, your wasting your time praying to the Almighty.
Praise the Lord, good wholesome families .............
Even the dogs are having a blast ..........
If your coming up, you better aim up........ Serenity Now!
Nice landscaping around the pool ..........
Xmas is a time for giving ................
Don't you go changing now, you' all!
Australia - 262 gun-related deaths this year.
America - 40,000 plus, this year.
____________________________________________________________________________
AMERICA
Texas - When you have to take a gun to church for safety, your wasting your time praying to the Almighty.
Praise the Lord, good wholesome families .............
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Even the dogs are having a blast ..........
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If your coming up, you better aim up........ Serenity Now!
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Nice landscaping around the pool ..........
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Xmas is a time for giving ................
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Don't you go changing now, you' all!
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Germany delivers weapons to Ukraine
Remember, it’s the thought that counts.
Whats plain to see, after all yesterdays shenanigans, is that Boris Johnson really doesnt give a flying **** about you, me or anyone in this country! His contempt for everyone and everything is plain to see. A typical Yank if ever there was one! I cant quite believe who people elect as leaders of their countries and then expect things to get better, this is all over the world. What a ****ing sorry state !!!
More than half (25k) of those US deaths are suicides.
It’s obvious that a society with a lot of guns will have a lot of gun related deaths and injuries. That’s why they need gun control.
That’s also probably why a majority (an absolute majority) of Americans have supported stricter gun controls for decades. I was talking about this to my very fiscally conservative Republican voting mate in Chicago last week. He despairs, he has never owned a gun and wants them managed like in U.K. (he is also pro choice on abortion).
One fundamental problem, in addition to significant numbers of people, of wildly different social backgrounds, habitually owning and using guns, is politics. 50 Republican senators paid for by the gun lobby are not prepared to sacrifice the cash by even marginal improvements to the law like background checks, controls of who can have an automatic weapon, age limits etc, and people like my mate who vote Republican feel that they have no option when confronted by the identity politics riven new Democrat party. I saw the results of this in Chicago last week, a place which has visibly declined even in the rich bits of downtown, since the radical mayor defunded the police force. It’s a noticeably edgier place, a lot of businesses, including big chain stores, have moved out because they feel unprotected. It’s much quieter in big suburban malls in the rich satellite towns.
The political problem is shared by most countries, though to a lesser extent, which have bi partisan politics - the U.K. and Australia amongst them. If you vote one way economically you are also voting for an implied social position which you might not share at all. My economic instincts are left wing, but I have no time for some of the identity politics championed by the so called left in this country, nor for the morally ‘old fashioned values’ style right. And on this point I should thank Johnson and his cronies for demonstrating, on a daily basis, that they don’t have a moral leg to stand on. And worse, from my perspective, that they have zero integrity.
Anyway, the short version is that the gun situation in the US is a social, cultural and political disaster which is avoidable. But it’s also very complicated and not helped by stereotyping.
Meanwhile, that old **** Kissinger, the bloke who has happily bombed and advocated the bombing of ‘marginal’ countries so the US could maintain its relationships with ‘strategically important’ nations, has told the Ukraine that it should give Russia territory in return for a ceasefire. A handy reminder that he isn’t dead yet, and hasn’t evolved in any measurable way since he worked for Nixon.
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His most mind boggling excuse was that he showed leadership in going to say goodbye to those moving on to other jobs/departments. Erm.....what about all those who couldnt say goodbye to loved ones that they wouldnt see ever again! What a disgusting human being he is.
He actually thinks he's the victim in all this. He's an utter disgrace, as are those that make excuses for him.
Yeah, I'm afraid this is a daft argument.
It will have been the Secret Service, who continue to protect all living past Presidents, who stipulated that there could be no guns in the room.
It's Standard Operating Procedure.
I acknowledge that the gun lobby in US are completely wrong in their position concerning the right to bare arms. Not sure anything will change sadly.
Agree. The only way I can see any improvements happening is very slight changes every now and again. I think a big change would see serious civil unrest. I genuinely believe if you asked some of them they’d prefer to loose an arm than their arms…
I’ll get my coat.
The way to make some progress on this, at least on a local level, could be to decouple the right the bear arms from the constitution, so that decisions are made on a state by state basis. The north eastern states and California already have stricter laws, within the constitutional ‘right’, than elsewhere. Ironically that’s just what the Supreme Court is potentially doing with abortion rights - ruling that access to abortion services are not a constitutional right (which even pro choice lawyers have noted is a dodgy proposition) and should be decided on a state by state, rather than federal, basis.
Whether bringing the option to change closer to voters on a local level would actually bring about change is another question, but it feels inherently more democratic to me.
Is that the same windfall tax that Corbyn got ridiculed for in his 2019 manifesto?
The same windfall tax that every single Tory was whipped to vote down only last week?
Strange how things come around
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