Er...the Corbyn comments came pursuant to Strolls's originating post that Corbyn was the only person to get Putin's Russia right...and inviting comments
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Er...the Corbyn comments came pursuant to Strolls's originating post that Corbyn was the only person to get Putin's Russia right...and inviting comments
Good stuff Beth! Do what you can.
Yeah this whole thing has upset me. Bloody Putin! only problem is my son left his room in a state... they may think they have left one war zone for another.
I will keep you all informed as to what happens.
Hopefully the World is moving forward and the Putins are a thing of the past.
Well done, Ellers and Mrs Ellers...great stuff.
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If it's a bloke dressed in black, consider having Stainsey vet him in case he's Azov
Well done to you and the Mrs mate.
Well done Ellers. You join around 45 thousand other families doing the same.
Not quite the unwelcoming, racist country some would try to portray eh?
Not quite the unwelcoming, racist country some would try to portray eh?
Think it would be alot more too if there weren't so many living on the poverty line themselves. What with the prices of energy, fuel and food going up so steeply the people in this country are suffering enough, I'm sure there's a helluva lot of people that wish they could do more but are unable to due to their own situations.
Well done the Ellers household, and anyone else who's registered.
I can't help thinking that all this is still too slow and bureaucratic, though. Aside from all the checks on refugees that the government are insisting on (unlike the rest of Europe), there are going to have to be suitability checks on those who have volunteered to house them as well. It could still take months before significant numbers can be brought into the UK.
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Well done to all those who put up Syrian, Eritrean or Somalian refugees in their hour of need before it all became a way of showing your virtue.
there will be many more by the end of the week. We just want to help out and give a family a roof over their head while all this S@@t is happening. Agree sometimes people say stuff about our country which is wrong...
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Said it before, we should be putting as many as we can into the Oligarchs mansions in London. It's called Karma !
I applaud all those able and willing to house any Ukranian refugees during this conflict.
I was discussing this with the mother in law last night who agrees with the opening sentence but went on to add "what about all those refugees fleeing from war torn countries that the UK have actively had a part in helping destroy". Why isnt the sympathy (for want of a better word) or support there for those people?
We couldnt come up with an answer, well we could but dare anyone actually say it nowadays.
I was discussing this with the mother in law last night who agrees with the opening sentence but went on to add "what about all those refugees fleeing from war torn countries that the UK have actively had a part in helping destroy". Why isnt the sympathy (for want of a better word) or support there for those people?
We couldnt come up with an answer, well we could but dare anyone actually say it nowadays.
The discussion went on for an hour or so from the 'soup kitchens' of old to the 'food banks' of present. The Irish troubles of which her family went through. Etc etc. The conclusion seemed unanimous around the table, we are going backwards, history repeating itself throughout the world. Greed and power the only constant. It will never change, where theres money, theres corruption and greed.
How interesting ... The new Downing Street Briefing Room, equipped by a Russian owned company.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...treet-media-refit_uk_604e42c0c5b672fce4ed8649
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...treet-media-refit_uk_604e42c0c5b672fce4ed8649
RangerCol,
You can never convince the’wokey’ movement but yeah, the everyday person in the street are pretty decent when everything turns to gravy.
Some genuine questions about the scheme.
What happens if you dont get on with your refugee (i dont mean it to sound like a pet)
Are there safeguards in place of such an event?
Are you supposed to feed them out of the 350 a month? There are many questions and its quite a complex issue really.
We let a family we had grown close to in Lanzarote stay at our place over there, even though one of my brothers didnt want to let them. This was throughout the pandemic. Free of charge, they just had to pay the bills. I fly out in April to see how they have left the place since moving on. I do hope our kind heartedness doesnt make me live to regret it.
What happens if you dont get on with your refugee (i dont mean it to sound like a pet)
Are there safeguards in place of such an event?
Are you supposed to feed them out of the 350 a month? There are many questions and its quite a complex issue really.
We let a family we had grown close to in Lanzarote stay at our place over there, even though one of my brothers didnt want to let them. This was throughout the pandemic. Free of charge, they just had to pay the bills. I fly out in April to see how they have left the place since moving on. I do hope our kind heartedness doesnt make me live to regret it.
It's a good way for the government to do not very much and to pass responsibility onto the general public. I think the government has been a bit taken aback by the strength of feeling in the country that we should be doing more - after all, we voted to keep refugees out, didn't we? As Stainesy has said - and you hinted at - there are genuine questions to be asked about what makes refugees from this conflict different to those from other ones. Why are people up in arms about refugees from Syria and elsewhere trying to cross the Channel in small boats, but are at the same time keen that we should be more welcoming to Ukrainians? I think one reason is that these are predominately women and children, whereas those in Farage's disgraceful poster were all men (never mind the reality). A second reason is that it's just closer to home, but it's hard to escape the possible conclusion that it's just because they look more like us.
Sunak making an extra £2.9 billion through increased fuel duties from the price surge, ie the government profits from inflation, we lose.
So he’ll be able to afford Bob’s quote for the fancy plastering at his Versailles in the Dales house.
So he’ll be able to afford Bob’s quote for the fancy plastering at his Versailles in the Dales house.
I would be genuinely interested in how many of the people offering rooms to Ukrainian refugees, would or did offer the same to any Syrian or Somalian refugees ?
https://www.refugeesathome.org/
https://www.roomforrefugees.com/about-us/our-impact/
It’s pretty low level but there has been some activity of this type, refugee hosting, for many years, so I imagine that some Somalis and Syrians, and hopefully some Afghans, have been offered shelter.
I think you’ve made your point, and I’m not going to dispute it. There does seem to be a different attitude, and Strolls has highlighted some of the potential reasons. However, I hope you are not implying that we should not help the Ukrainian refugees because we didn’t help those from other places. I don’t think you are.
There are a couple of material differences which we should recognise. In a humanitarian disaster of huge scale, 6.6 million Syrians have fled their country since 2011 - most live in Turkey and Lebanon now, but Germany has taken over 800,000. 2015-16 were the peak years.
3 million Ukrainians, nearly all women, children and the elderly, have fled their country in 3 weeks. 1.6 million of them are in Poland. The scale of the Syrian diaspora was huge, this is much bigger, and much faster, up to ten million expected to leave if the current situation continues. Nearly all men of fighting age (which seems to start young and end quite old in Ukraine) have stayed to fight.
I think this country failed, compared to others, in its response to earlier refugee crises, most recently Afghanistan. I’m glad we seem to be stepping up, as a people rather than as a government, to this one rather more boldly. Even if we are all racists.
No I’m not implying that…and I would expect that you know me well enough to work that one out.