Off Topic The Politics Thread

[rangercol]

That isn't the question though. Otherwise you could have said that about the Nazis. It's whether you think Putin is justified in invading another sovereign country.

Exactly this.

 

[Staines R's]

That isn't the question though. Otherwise you could have said that about the Nazis. It's whether you think Putin is justified in invading another sovereign country.

No it’s absolutely not and I have made that abundantly clear. just seems on here, and other social media outlets, if you try to take a rational view and point out that not all the “good guys” are good….you get labelled a Putin supporter. Something which I certainly am not.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

No it’s absolutely not and I have made that abundantly clear. just seems on here, and other social media outlets, if you try to take a rational view and point out that not all the “good guys” are good….you get labelled a Putin supporter. Something which I certainly am not.

Ok, but you've answered a different question. You've answered, is one or other side spotlessly white? Whereas the question is, is Putin entitled to attack and invade a non-aggressive, sovereign country? It's yes or no.

 

[rangercol]

No it’s absolutely not and I have made that abundantly clear. just seems on here, and other social media outlets, if you try to take a rational view and point out that not all the “good guys” are good….you get labelled a Putin supporter. Something which I certainly am not.

I think your love of an argument gets the better of you sometimes mate .

I know.....I can talk eh?

I think we've all acknowledged that no one is sqeaky clean.

 

[Staines R's]

Ok, but you've answered a different question. You've answered, is one or other side spotlessly white? Whereas the question is, is Putin entitled to attack and invade a non-aggressive, sovereign country? It's yes or no.

I’ve already said no…..that’s stating the obvious. I want asked that….I was asked to pick a side

 

[Staines R's]

I think your love of an argument gets the better of you sometimes mate .

I know.....I can talk eh?

I think we've all acknowledged that no one is sqeaky clean.

I just like to be fair Col….nothing is “black and white” in the world

 

[rangercol]

I’ve already said no…..that’s stating the obvious. I want asked that….I was asked to pick a side

And can you pick a side between Putin and Ukraine?

 

[Staines R's]

I think your love of an argument gets the better of you sometimes mate .

I know.....I can talk eh?

I think we've all acknowledged that no one is sqeaky clean.

You know me too well Col

 

[Staines R's]

And can you pick a side between Putin and Ukraine?

Can I abstain?

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

I’ve already said no…..that’s stating the obvious. I want asked that….I was asked to pick a side

If you accept that Putin is not entitled to invade Ukraine, then on the issue of invasion, you have picked a side.

 

[rangercol]

Can I abstain?

Of course.

I can't. I'm against Putin.

 

[rangercol]

Quite a few abstained against Hitler!

 

[Staines R's]

If you accept that Putin is not entitled to invade Ukraine, then on the issue of invasion, you have picked a side.

Of course.

I can't. I'm against Putin.

Ok if it’s a call I’m against Putin……happy now lads ?

But can I add the caveat that I am not a supporter of any Ukrainian, fascist militia that have been murdering children in the Donbas for the last 14 years while people, like yourselves, couldn’t give a **** ?

I feel that’s a fair compromise

 

[Stroller]

Quite a few abstained against Hitler!

Many of England's ruling class were supporters of Hitler in the 30s.

Many of today's ruling class are in receipt of dirty Russian money.

 

[Staines R's]

Many of England's ruling class were supporters of Hitler in the 30s.

Many of today's ruling class are in receipt of dirty Russian money.

Good analogy……

 

[ELLERS]

Lol the Chelsea russian has handed over club.

 

[rangercol]

Many of England's ruling class were supporters of Hitler in the 30s.

Many of today's ruling class are in receipt of dirty Russian money.

Indeed.
Where do you stand?

 

[Staines R's]

Indeed.
Where do you stand?

Where do you stand on the Donbas conflict Col ? With the right wing, neo-Nazi Ukrainian militia or with the separatists ?

Simple choice

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Ok if it’s a call I’m against Putin……happy now lads ?

But can I add the caveat that I am not a supporter of any Ukrainian, fascist militia that have been murdering children in the Donbas for the last 14 years while people, like yourselves, couldn’t give a **** ?

I feel that’s a fair compromise

I've never heard about the fascists murdering children claim. What's the source?

 

[Stroller]

Indeed.
Where do you stand?

On what?