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Lets have an inquiry like we did with the russians and wait til after the next election. Theres an idea hey

As long as it’s really overseen and dealt with by the Labour Party, then they don’t really have to release the details either.
 
I cant take any more of these illegal parties! Seems like this pamdemic was a massive 24 month party at 10 downing street. No wonder weve had one of the highest death tolls in europe, god rest their souls.
 
Lets just all pray and hope that Johnson either resigns or gets chucked out. Even better, prosecuted and jailed, now that would be perfect. Then we can try to clean up politics as a whole with everyone knowing that they cant get away with being corrupt and lying.
 
Lets just all pray and hope that Johnson either resigns or gets chucked out. Even better, prosecuted and jailed, now that would be perfect. Then we can try to clean up politics as a whole with everyone knowing that they cant get away with being corrupt and lying.

If that happened the likes of Mogg would **** his pants.
 
The Home Secretary is responsible for MI5. It seems this woman has been watched for years and the timing of today's revelation stinks. If, as Gardiner claims, he has been liaising with the security services all along, Priti Vacant needs to explain why this has come out now.
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Issuing an alert about an individual is an unusual move for MI5.

It signals that their long-running investigation had led them to become sufficiently concerned that they felt they had to act now.

We have heard about concerns over Russian influence in the past but China, British intelligence officials say, has now become their top priority.

The allegation here is interference - covertly gaining influence - and not espionage (stealing secrets).

And one concern from security officials is that there are not the laws in place to be able to tackle interference.

As a result, they sometimes believe that going public - as they have done in this case - is the best way of disrupting any ongoing risk.
 
I cant take any more of these illegal parties! Seems like this pamdemic was a massive 24 month party at 10 downing street. No wonder weve had one of the highest death tolls in europe, god rest their souls.
I have trouble remembering some of the parties I've been at
 
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Issuing an alert about an individual is an unusual move for MI5.

It signals that their long-running investigation had led them to become sufficiently concerned that they felt they had to act now.

We have heard about concerns over Russian influence in the past but China, British intelligence officials say, has now become their top priority.

The allegation here is interference - covertly gaining influence - and not espionage (stealing secrets).

And one concern from security officials is that there are not the laws in place to be able to tackle interference.

As a result, they sometimes believe that going public - as they have done in this case - is the best way of disrupting any ongoing risk.
And what’s worse the ex National security fella said on the news agentS not just one and they are now saying on Twitter that other money went to Labour. All a bit dodgy.
 
eer I said Boris was stupid yesterday and I have also said in other posts that he has been naive. Where is your condemnation of Gardiner?
I condemn anyone who has does anything wrong, the list is endless. My personal favourite is the contract worth £13m given by Chris Grayling to Seaborne Freight to help out with the movement of goods via the Channel to the Uk after Brexit,who turned out to not own one single boat! Absolute quality!
 
And what’s worse the ex National security fella said on the news agentS not just one and they are now saying on Twitter that other money went to Labour. All a bit dodgy.
What's worse is the state of the so called security services
Why are we even finding out this stuff in press releases
Have the spies gone soft

Get back to the good old days of car crashes and gas explosions
 
I always said that Boris would last until the local elections. However I am hearing tonight that a very influential Tory MP and Boris supporter has turned on him and will be saying he should resign. I think that will have a domino effect.
 
To be honest Strolls, the whole superstructure is now so comprehensively ****ed from whatever angle you look at it that taking a good step back and saying ‘a plague on all your houses’ seems a logical response to me. Why the **** would Gardiner accept so much cash from an obvious Chinese government plant unless he was either greedy or aligned with the Chinese government? Why the **** would 34 Tory MPs accept cash from a corrupt Russian oligarch if it wasn’t greed or an ideological attachment to money? Why the **** would anyone waste their breath and conscience trying to make excuses for these ****s?

I wouldn't seek to make excuses for Gardiner - who appears to be either corrupt or incredibly stupid - any more than I would the countless Tories similarly funded. This woman has been under investigation by MI5 for five years though, and it seems particularly odd that this unprecedented 'warning' should be issued the day after Johnson's craven performance at PMQs. Whatever, the whole culture of 'donations' to MPs and political parties needs to be taken down.
 
I always said that Boris would last until the local elections. However I am hearing tonight that a very influential Tory MP and Boris supporter has turned on him and will be saying he should resign. I think that will have a domino effect.

Andrew Bridgen.
Looks like two for two on my predictions. :1980_boogie_down:
 
I wouldn't seek to make excuses for Gardiner - who appears to be either corrupt or incredibly stupid - any more than I would the countless Tories similarly funded. This woman has been under investigation by MI5 for five years though, and it seems particularly odd that this unprecedented 'warning' should be issued the day after Johnson's craven performance at PMQs. Whatever, the whole culture of 'donations' to MPs and political parties needs to be taken down.
How should they be funded
 
Andrew Bridgen.
Looks like two for two on my predictions. :1980_boogie_down:
TBH Stroller your not exactly Nostradamus. It’s like me saying it will rain in the next year. Don’t forget you thought Jezza could win.

Getting back to Bridgen, he is very close with a lot of the ERG mob.