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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Having expressed my semi-like of GB news...due to their high and interesting news content and discussion.

Eamon Holmes is now the new presenter, he has whittered on for 10 minutes about Christmas trees ...our watching of GBNews is not going to last much longer..

And it is nowt to do with the politics
 
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Having expressed my semi-like of GB news...due to their high and interesting news content and discussion.

Eamon Holmes is now the new presenter, he has whittered on for 10 minutes about Christmas trees ...our watching of GBNews is not going to last much longer..

And it is nowt to do with the politics

Fully agree, Beth. It was fatuous and patronising, as was the reporter who knocked on a door pretending he didn't know who lived there, and then carried out a prepared and formulaic interview. Pantomime. There's also an horrible orange back set which no one needs first time in the morning. Reluctantly, I turned to Sky .
Holmes won't last long if he doesn't get a big dose of substance in and doesn't talk down.
 
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Having expressed my semi-like of GB news...due to their high and interesting news content and discussion.

Eamon Holmes is now the new presenter, he has whittered on for 10 minutes about Christmas trees ...our watching of GBNews is not going to last much longer..

And it is nowt to do with the politics
I missed most of it but caught the last 5 minutes. I saw Ann Diamond on the panel with him. That won’t last long. GB News has some fab content but today it looked similar to Good Morning Britain. :emoticon-0106-cryin
 
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There is a series on BBC radio 4 this week, 9.00am every morning, which might help develop a nuanced understanding of these statistics. I know it’s not an approved news/opinion source, sorry.

It’s a very complex issue. Average fertility needs to be 2.1 kids per woman for the population to replace itself. Many countries, including the U.K., have a rate well below this at the moment. South Korea is only 0.9. China is below the rate, and recently India has dropped to 2. The future in developed nations looks like Japan and Italy, where populations are shrinking.

Rapid population growth is happening primarily in very poor countries in Africa and some in the Middle East. Tackling poverty and ignorance would control this, but of course the people in these countries use less resources than elsewhere because they are poor.

Malthus was wrong, he thought increasing levels of resource and wealth would lead to exponential population growth. The reverse has happened. You get to a certain level particularly with education and participation in the workforce of women, who then choose to have fewer kids later. It’s a nightmare for capitalism of course, which depends on continual growth and expansion, driven by consumer demand. Probably why the U.K. government is quietly ignoring its immigration promises. Truss really happy to relax requirements for Indian immigration to the U.K. in exchange for a trade deal. The deal is good, but the economy actually needs the immigrants as well.
 
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Elon Musk is on record as saying..that very soon we will have a population implosion, where we have far too few people being born to support the older people already born.

Especially in the highly developed countries
 
Elon Musk is on record as saying..that very soon we will have a population implosion, where we have far too few people being born to support the older people already born.

Especially in the highly developed countries
That’s because everyone keeps changing their gender. If we all stayed the same we could be over populated. :emoticon-0100-smile
 
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There is a series on BBC radio 4 this week, 9.00am every morning, which might help develop a nuanced understanding of these statistics. I know it’s not an approved news/opinion source, sorry.

It’s a very complex issue. Average fertility needs to be 2.1 kids per woman for the population to replace itself. Many countries, including the U.K., have a rate well below this at the moment. South Korea is only 0.9. China is below the rate, and recently India has dropped to 2. The future in developed nations looks like Japan and Italy, where populations are shrinking.

Rapid population growth is happening primarily in very poor countries in Africa and some in the Middle East. Tackling poverty and ignorance would control this, but of course the people in these countries use less resources than elsewhere because they are poor.

Malthus was wrong, he thought increasing levels of resource and wealth would lead to exponential population growth. The reverse has happened. You get to a certain level particularly with education and participation in the workforce of women, who then choose to have fewer kids later. It’s a nightmare for capitalism of course, which depends on continual growth and expansion, driven by consumer demand. Probably why the U.K. government is quietly ignoring its immigration promises. Truss really happy to relax requirements for Indian immigration to the U.K. in exchange for a trade deal. The deal is good, but the economy actually needs the immigrants as well.

It is complex no doubt, but the bottom line is that world population has increased exponentially, just in my lifetime. It's predicted to be almost 10 billion by 2050.

I am of the environmentalist David Attenborough camp (not businessman Elon Musk) who maintains that the population increase is putting huge pressure on the planet’s limited resources - and impact on the environment. "More people means more carbon footprints - more cars, waste and emissions, houses and infrastructure to be constructed using the world’s limited resources. More mouths to be fed using more water and energy in food production."

We have to start looking at the planet as a conglomerate of living things, the future of which, we take responsibility for - rather than a takeaway resource we plunder, leaving the remnants for future generations
 
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It is complex no doubt, but the bottom line is that world population has increased exponentially, just in my lifetime. It's predicted to be almost 10 billion by 2050.

I am of the environmentalist David Attenborough camp (not businessman Elon Musk) who maintains that the population increase is putting huge pressure on the planet’s limited resources - and impact on the environment. "More people means more carbon footprints - more cars, waste and emissions, houses and infrastructure to be constructed using the world’s limited resources. More mouths to be fed using more water and energy in food production."

We have to start looking at the planet as a conglomerate of living things, the future of which, we take responsibility for - rather than a takeaway resource we plunder, leaving the remnants for future generations
What do you suggest?
 
What do you suggest?

I'll disappoint Watford and swerve firing squads.

A comprehensive worldwide project of family planning, contraception, empowering women. Quality education. Where possible, controlling migration flows so indigenous people are not forced to leave their homes. Making government responsible with targets.

Not all easy but vital for sustainability.
 
I'll disappoint Watford and swerve firing squads.

A comprehensive worldwide project of family planning, contraception, empowering women. Quality education. Where possible, controlling migration flows so indigenous people are not forced to leave their homes. Making government responsible with targets.

Not all easy but vital for sustainability.

I’ll vote for the firing squads.