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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Yes, Project Fear has been shown to be what we knew it was, empty and false rhetoric. We need a government now to get away from over- regulated , EU type restrictions on industry and reduce taxes asap to encourage entrepreneurs and business start ups.
Agree I heard the other day that they were dismantling many of the rules and regulations but reckon it will be some time before we break the umbilical cord. Which was expected after 40 years in. Some ‘remainers’ try to mock Brexit because results can’t be seen 24hrs later.
Project fear is long dead now.
 
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I put forward plenty of arguments. Just bored of being more polite to Tory ****s than their views merit.

No, you don't. There's nothing creative, nothing positive in you posts, as to what you would like to see happen in politics, whether as a communist, signed up member of antifa or frustrated socialist. What you're interested in doing is sniping, provoking an argument, usually based on bitterness and sarcasm, and then resorting to abuse.

I assume you're a grown up man and not a teenager. I don't know. See if you can string some coherent thoughts together, and who knows, you might persuade someone of something.
 
No, you don't. There's nothing creative, nothing positive in you posts, as to what you would like to see happen in politics, whether as a communist, signed up member of antifa or frustrated socialist. What you're interested in doing is sniping, provoking an argument, usually based on bitterness and sarcasm, and then resorting to abuse.

I assume you're a grown up man and not a teenager. I don't know. See if you can string some coherent thoughts together, and who knows, you might persuade someone of something.

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Agree I heard the other day that they were dismantling many of the rules and regulations but reckon it will be some time before we break the umbilical cord. Which was expected after 40 years in. Some ‘remainers’ try to mock Brexit because results can’t be seen 24hrs later.
Project fear is long dead now.

Boris Johnson needs to do more to loosen quicker. He has the disadvantage of the cost of the virus, sure, but we need to get on the other side and form the basis from which business, and new business, can flourish.
 
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No, you don't. There's nothing creative, nothing positive in you posts, as to what you would like to see happen in politics, whether as a communist, signed up member of antifa or frustrated socialist. What you're interested in doing is sniping, provoking an argument, usually based on bitterness and sarcasm, and then resorting to abuse.

I assume you're a grown up man and not a teenager. I don't know. See if you can string some coherent thoughts together, and who knows, you might persuade someone of something.

I have absolutely no intention of persuading the openly Tory or shy Tories of anything. Anyone continuing to support this is beyond hope and fortunately a dwindling and dying minority.
 
I have absolutely no intention of persuading the openly Tory or shy Tories of anything. Anyone continuing to support this is beyond hope and fortunately a dwindling and dying minority.

No point any evidence you provide to back up your points, even if they are 100% facts with no room for ambiguity, or all the statistics back you up unless it comes from a Tory approved publication.. which let’s face it are getting fewer by the weeks, will be instantly dismissed anyway.
 
No, you don't. There's nothing creative, nothing positive in you posts, as to what you would like to see happen in politics, whether as a communist, signed up member of antifa or frustrated socialist. What you're interested in doing is sniping, provoking an argument, usually based on bitterness and sarcasm, and then resorting to abuse.

I assume you're a grown up man and not a teenager. I don't know. See if you can string some coherent thoughts together, and who knows, you might persuade someone of something.
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Watford sounds like that Kevin & Perry character. I can’t remember the name of the show as I was living in Australia, however I remember the whinging kid.
 
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Watford sounds like that Kevin & Perry character. I can’t remember the name of the show as I was living in Australia, however I remember the whinging kid.

I think it’s nice that the 2 1/2 right wingers still here have each other. I hope Jeff and Turkish are ok.
 
I think it’s nice that the 2 1/2 right wingers still here have each other. I hope Jeff and Turkish are ok.
You seemed rattled mate? That’s twice in a week Goldie had to explain things to you. :emoticon-0102-bigsm

on a serious note we all know that there is injustice/food banks/ problems/ have and have nots/ Government cock ups and other stuff that we can all see and go mmm… but (and this is a big but) if you are going to moan, then give alternatives. Otherwise you sound like Ashworth/Dodds and the other droids that have no answers… or credible ones.

Right now I’m off to watch a classic comedy before all the freaks want it cancelled because they use the word Man/woman.
 
You seemed rattled mate? That’s twice in a week Goldie had to explain things to you. :emoticon-0102-bigsm

on a serious note we all know that there is injustice/food banks/ problems/ have and have nots/ Government cock ups and other stuff that we can all see and go mmm… but (and this is a big but) if you are going to moan, then give alternatives. Otherwise you sound like Ashworth/Dodds and the other droids that have no answers… or credible ones.

Right now I’m off to watch a classic comedy before all the freaks want it cancelled because they use the word Man/woman.

You can save me the lecture from someone who cries bullying when three people reply.

Your lot have been unashamedly incompetent and corrupt having had power for eleven years. It doesn’t matter who or what the alternative is. A genuine Conservative would loathe this government rather than making excuses for it.
 
You can save me the lecture from someone who cries bullying when three people reply.

Your lot have been unashamedly incompetent and corrupt having had power for eleven years. It doesn’t matter who or what the alternative is. A genuine Conservative would loathe this government rather than making excuses for it.
So you don’t have any alternatives other than, anyone but the Tories? You let yourself down when you argue mate. Come up with something credible.
 
So you don’t have any alternatives other than, anyone but the Tories? You let yourself down when you argue mate. Come up with something credible.

That’s not what I said. We live in a system where two parties can conceivably win. Of those I’d obviously prefer Labour. If part of a coalition that led to a more representative voting system than FPTP being put in place then even better.
 
You can save me the lecture from someone who cries bullying when three people reply.

Your lot have been unashamedly incompetent and corrupt having had power for eleven years. It doesn’t matter who or what the alternative is. A genuine Conservative would loathe this government rather than making excuses for it.

See, there you go, that post has the makings of an argument in it, instead of calling all Tories ****s. What most non biased people would accept is that Johnson's government has done two fundamentals right. It ended that interminable People's vote parliament and got us out of the EU (there are difficulties in NI, but when have there not been.) And the UK's vaccination programme with drugs bought by the government and rolled out by the NHS was more successful than the EU.

As for corruption, the Owen Patterson affair and Partygate leave a bitter taste in the mouth. Johnson has to get his act together or the Tories will sack him. And as for handing out contract in the heat of Covid, there will be a public enquiry. You'll just have to patient on that.
 
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That’s not what I said. We live in a system where two parties can conceivably win. Of those I’d obviously prefer Labour. If part of a coalition that led to a more representative voting system than FPTP being put in place then even better.
But Labour don’t give a credible alternative. You think Dodds/Ashworth/butler/Rayner led by Captain Hindsight would do better? Blimey mate you have a short memory.
 
See, there you go, that post has the makings of an argument in it, instead of calling all Tories ****s. What most non biased people would accept is that Johnson's government has done two fundamentals right. It ended that interminable People's vote parliament and got us out of the EU (there are difficulties in NI, but when have there not been.) And the UK's vaccination programme with drugs bought by the government and rolled out by the NHS was more successful than the EU.

As for corruption, the Owen Patterson affair and Partygate leave a bitter taste in the mouth. Johnson has to get his act together or the Tories will sack him. And as for handing out contract in the heat of Covid, there will be a public enquiry. You'll just have to patient on that.

The most deaths in Europe and despite the parroted Tory headlines, a rollout behind various comparable countries while paying unnecessarily high prices per dose.

There are good Tories, albeit few. They are predominantly ****s and apologists for this increasingly fascist regime.
 
But Labour don’t give a credible alternative. You think Dodds/Ashworth/butler/Rayner led by Captain Hindsight would do better? Blimey mate you have a short memory.

They don’t give a credible alternative to you, which isn’t the same thing. Yes, obviously they’d do better. Just look at the state of what we have now that you make excuses for.