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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%

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    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
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Man with private jet and flies on rockets propelled by billions of dollars meets with man who flies thousands of miles in private jets and has millions of pounds meet to lecture the lower classes on why they're causing global warming.
It's honestly beyond ****ing parody.



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The Prince of Wales has been involved in fighting climate change and protecting our beautiful world far longer than most. We had a chance to discuss these important issues on the eve of [HASHTAG]#COP26[/HASHTAG]
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BobbyD said:
Agreed, killing people off in the name of climate change is barbaric and only a psychopath would do it.

We can all reduce our waste but with the population only growing (how many times do we hear we need a steady replacement of workers so that we are not inundated by unproductive old people) I don't really see a solution to climate change.

As you say, our houses are probably better insulated now than in the past, there is far more recycling going on and climate change.

--- i just had a quick look:

Appears that the above that i wrote is a load of bollocks about us being as polluting as possible. I wonder how much of the below is because we don't produce as much as we used to (less factories? again this could be all bollocks, just the image i get when people say we don't produce anything anymore and import loads).

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I ve been reading that the development of burying the climate changing gasses in the oil and gas industry is well advanced, and Biden was also looking to enforce that. Probably no help in the coal industry though.
 
rangercol said:
Mmm....
The next mass extinction of the type you describe is calculated, according to NASA, to be around 20million years away!!
Also, mass extinction caused by carbon imbalances in oceans etc take thousands of years to play out once initially triggered.
There is a school of thought that we may only be 100 years from such a carbon tipping point, but that's the most pessimistic forecast.
One would hope that continuing advances in technology will enable mankind to put things right before that tipping point is reached. Technology could also become so advanced even after that tipping point that the problem could be remedied or we may even be able to move planets.
So, I think our immediate family in the near to medium future are unlikely to become extinct.

Greed will undoubtedly take us nearer and nearer to disaster, though I share your view that I'm not going to spend what time I have left obsessively worrying about it all.
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Just been reading about meteor strikes etc (we should really have a science thread….)
https://www.tulane.edu/~sanelson/Natural_Disasters/impacts.htm
It’s fascinating stuff. Even a relatively small strike would apparently have the same impact as a big nuclear war. While very big impacts are very rare that doesn’t mean one couldn’t happen at any time, they aren’t scheduled like buses, and apparently we aren’t very good at spotting them coming, several recent near (relatively) miss nearly undetected. Much greater chance of being killed by something crashing into the earth than of winning the lottery!

All very interesting stuff. Perhaps I worded my original post clumsily. My point was that people going on about ‘saving the planet’ are, in my view, on the wrong track, and that the likelihood of us, collectively, doing enough to change the impact of climate change (whatever that impact is…) seems pretty slim unless it can be made profitable somehow, because that is what drives things. Perhaps I’m too pessimistic, the cost of stuff like solar and wind power is plummeting. All things are possible, even getting rid of plastic, if we have the incentive and if we can do it fast enough.

We’ll never know about moving planets etc, that is hundreds if not thousands of years in the future. If we do I hope we look after them a bit better.

Boring vox pop - what are the rubbish/recycling arrangements around the country. We have general rubbish taken every two weeks, and garden/green waste plus bottles, plastics, cardboard and paper recycling in fortnightly in the alternate week. This works well for us, diligent at sorting the recycling etc. now it’s seems they want to change it next year sometime to general waste once a month, food waste once a fortnight, all recycling in a big blue bin can’t remember how often and no Green waste taken unless you pay for it. I’ll need a bigger garden up just to store the bins in…..
 
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sb_73 said:
Just been reading about meteor strikes etc (we should really have a science thread….)
https://www.tulane.edu/~sanelson/Natural_Disasters/impacts.htm
It’s fascinating stuff. Even a relatively small strike would apparently have the same impact as a big nuclear war. While very big impacts are very rare that doesn’t mean one couldn’t happen at any time, they aren’t scheduled like buses, and apparently we aren’t very good at spotting them coming, several recent near (relatively) miss nearly undetected. Much greater chance of being killed by something crashing into the earth than of winning the lottery!

All very interesting stuff. Perhaps I worded my original post clumsily. My point was that people going on about ‘saving the planet’ are, in my view, on the wrong track, and that the likelihood of us, collectively, doing enough to change the impact of climate change (whatever that impact is…) seems pretty slim unless it can be made profitable somehow, because that is what drives things. Perhaps I’m too pessimistic, the cost of stuff like solar and wind power is plummeting. All things are possible, even getting rid of plastic, if we have the incentive and if we can do it fast enough.

We’ll never know about moving planets etc, that is hundreds if not thousands of years in the future. If we do I hope we look after them a bit better.

Boring vox pop - what are the rubbish/recycling arrangements around the country. We have general rubbish taken every two weeks, and garden/green waste plus bottles, plastics, cardboard and paper recycling in fortnightly in the alternate week. This works well for us, diligent at sorting the recycling etc. now it’s seems they want to change it next year sometime to general waste once a month, food waste once a fortnight, all recycling in a big blue bin can’t remember how often and no Green waste taken unless you pay for it. I’ll need a bigger garden up just to store the bins in…..
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NASA say that meteor strikes, of the end of days variety, are reasonably predictable and are cyclical to a certain extent. Something to do with which part of the universe we're travelling through and when.
I actually think that being serious about climate change is just about the only thing that Boris is getting right. We seem to be world leaders.
Our bins are:
Food - weekly
Recycling, general and garden - fortnightly.
We're pretty good at sorting our rubbish, but it's amazing how much recycling we have considering there's only the two of us now.
We have very little general waste, although I'm sure some of what we think is recycling is probably general.
 
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sb_73 said:
Just been reading about meteor strikes etc (we should really have a science thread….)
https://www.tulane.edu/~sanelson/Natural_Disasters/impacts.htm
It’s fascinating stuff. Even a relatively small strike would apparently have the same impact as a big nuclear war. While very big impacts are very rare that doesn’t mean one couldn’t happen at any time, they aren’t scheduled like buses, and apparently we aren’t very good at spotting them coming, several recent near (relatively) miss nearly undetected. Much greater chance of being killed by something crashing into the earth than of winning the lottery!

All very interesting stuff. Perhaps I worded my original post clumsily. My point was that people going on about ‘saving the planet’ are, in my view, on the wrong track, and that the likelihood of us, collectively, doing enough to change the impact of climate change (whatever that impact is…) seems pretty slim unless it can be made profitable somehow, because that is what drives things. Perhaps I’m too pessimistic, the cost of stuff like solar and wind power is plummeting. All things are possible, even getting rid of plastic, if we have the incentive and if we can do it fast enough.

We’ll never know about moving planets etc, that is hundreds if not thousands of years in the future. If we do I hope we look after them a bit better.

Boring vox pop - what are the rubbish/recycling arrangements around the country. We have general rubbish taken every two weeks, and garden/green waste plus bottles, plastics, cardboard and paper recycling in fortnightly in the alternate week. This works well for us, diligent at sorting the recycling etc. now it’s seems they want to change it next year sometime to general waste once a month, food waste once a fortnight, all recycling in a big blue bin can’t remember how often and no Green waste taken unless you pay for it. I’ll need a bigger garden up just to store the bins in…..
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the geek threads mostly science
 
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sb_73 said:
Just been reading about meteor strikes etc (we should really have a science thread….)
https://www.tulane.edu/~sanelson/Natural_Disasters/impacts.htm
It’s fascinating stuff. Even a relatively small strike would apparently have the same impact as a big nuclear war. While very big impacts are very rare that doesn’t mean one couldn’t happen at any time, they aren’t scheduled like buses, and apparently we aren’t very good at spotting them coming, several recent near (relatively) miss nearly undetected. Much greater chance of being killed by something crashing into the earth than of winning the lottery!

All very interesting stuff. Perhaps I worded my original post clumsily. My point was that people going on about ‘saving the planet’ are, in my view, on the wrong track, and that the likelihood of us, collectively, doing enough to change the impact of climate change (whatever that impact is…) seems pretty slim unless it can be made profitable somehow, because that is what drives things. Perhaps I’m too pessimistic, the cost of stuff like solar and wind power is plummeting. All things are possible, even getting rid of plastic, if we have the incentive and if we can do it fast enough.

We’ll never know about moving planets etc, that is hundreds if not thousands of years in the future. If we do I hope we look after them a bit better.

Boring vox pop - what are the rubbish/recycling arrangements around the country. We have general rubbish taken every two weeks, and garden/green waste plus bottles, plastics, cardboard and paper recycling in fortnightly in the alternate week. This works well for us, diligent at sorting the recycling etc. now it’s seems they want to change it next year sometime to general waste once a month, food waste once a fortnight, all recycling in a big blue bin can’t remember how often and no Green waste taken unless you pay for it. I’ll need a bigger garden up just to store the bins in…..
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Everything is collected weekly round here - black bags for general/food waste, see-through bags for general recycling, purple bags for clothes recycling, returnable canvas bags for garden waste. Very efficient. The only small issue is having to be up early enough to put out the black bags before the 7.30am collection - you can't put them out the night before because of the foxes.
 
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sb_73 said:
Just been reading about meteor strikes etc (we should really have a science thread….)
https://www.tulane.edu/~sanelson/Natural_Disasters/impacts.htm
It’s fascinating stuff. Even a relatively small strike would apparently have the same impact as a big nuclear war. While very big impacts are very rare that doesn’t mean one couldn’t happen at any time, they aren’t scheduled like buses, and apparently we aren’t very good at spotting them coming, several recent near (relatively) miss nearly undetected. Much greater chance of being killed by something crashing into the earth than of winning the lottery!

All very interesting stuff. Perhaps I worded my original post clumsily. My point was that people going on about ‘saving the planet’ are, in my view, on the wrong track, and that the likelihood of us, collectively, doing enough to change the impact of climate change (whatever that impact is…) seems pretty slim unless it can be made profitable somehow, because that is what drives things. Perhaps I’m too pessimistic, the cost of stuff like solar and wind power is plummeting. All things are possible, even getting rid of plastic, if we have the incentive and if we can do it fast enough.

We’ll never know about moving planets etc, that is hundreds if not thousands of years in the future. If we do I hope we look after them a bit better.

Boring vox pop - what are the rubbish/recycling arrangements around the country. We have general rubbish taken every two weeks, and garden/green waste plus bottles, plastics, cardboard and paper recycling in fortnightly in the alternate week. This works well for us, diligent at sorting the recycling etc. now it’s seems they want to change it next year sometime to general waste once a month, food waste once a fortnight, all recycling in a big blue bin can’t remember how often and no Green waste taken unless you pay for it. I’ll need a bigger garden up just to store the bins in…..
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Geek/intersting thread is the one for sciencey stuff...

Bins round my way

Black bin - general waste, fortnightly

Blue bin - recycling, alternative fortnightly

Green bin - food waste, weekly

Brown bin - green waste, same weeks as blue bin, March to October, £20 a year for the privalage I think
 
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Steelmonkey said:
Geek/intersting thread is the one for sciencey stuff...

Bins round my way

Black bin - general waste, fortnightly

Blue bin - recycling, alternative fortnightly

Green bin - food waste, weekly

Brown bin - green waste, same weeks as blue bin, March to October, £20 a year for the privalage I think
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Which colour do the rats prefer or is it just Glasgow?
 
Malawi has just donated £1 million to help clean up Scotland

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Chris Rose

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Sky News has suggested that we should eat mealworms, grasshoppers & crickets as a solution to the climate crisis.
If that’s a solution then I’m afraid the planet will simply have to die.
 
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Owen Paterson MP was found guilty by a cross-party committee of MPs of 'egregious' breaches of parliamentary rules in taking over £100,000 per annum from each of two companies to lobby for them. One of these companies, Randox, was given nearly half a billion pounds worth of government contracts without having to go through a tendering process. Now, Tory MPs are being instructed by Boris Johnson to back an amendment by Andrea Leadsom aimed at setting aside the committee's conclusion, effectively changing the rules after the game's finished.

This government is utterly and shamelessly corrupt.
 
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Owen Paterson MP was found guilty by a cross-party committee of MPs of 'egregious' breaches of parliamentary rules in taking over £100,000 per annum from each of two companies to lobby for them. One of these companies, Randox, was given nearly half a billion pounds worth of government contracts without having to go through a tendering process. Now, Tory MPs are being instructed by Boris Johnson to back an amendment by Andrea Leadsom aimed at setting aside the committee's conclusion, effectively changing the rules after the game's finished.

This government is utterly and shamelessly corrupt.
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Just doff your cap and get back to work.
 
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Owen Paterson MP was found guilty by a cross-party committee of MPs of 'egregious' breaches of parliamentary rules in taking over £100,000 per annum from each of two companies to lobby for them. One of these companies, Randox, was given nearly half a billion pounds worth of government contracts without having to go through a tendering process. Now, Tory MPs are being instructed by Boris Johnson to back an amendment by Andrea Leadsom aimed at setting aside the committee's conclusion, effectively changing the rules after the game's finished.

This government is utterly and shamelessly corrupt.
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I've seen nothing in the media that suggests Paterson was involved in any way with a large government contract to Randox. He took concerns he had about antibiotic residues in milk being sold in supermarkets to the Food Standards Agency. The standards committee found no fault here, but said in later emails he appeared to be promoting Randox technology.

Paterson was not interviewed until late in the inquiry and his 17 witnesses were not spoken to, just asked to put in written statements. So the question is one of natural justice. As I understand it, Leadsom is not seeking to set aside the committee's decision, merely postpone it while independent third parties scrutinise the processes adopted by the inquiry. It's interesting that John Bercow, hardly a Tory stooge, has come out in favour of this and believes that Patterson has not had a fair hearing.
 
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Owen Paterson MP was found guilty by a cross-party committee of MPs of 'egregious' breaches of parliamentary rules in taking over £100,000 per annum from each of two companies to lobby for them. One of these companies, Randox, was given nearly half a billion pounds worth of government contracts without having to go through a tendering process. Now, Tory MPs are being instructed by Boris Johnson to back an amendment by Andrea Leadsom aimed at setting aside the committee's conclusion, effectively changing the rules after the game's finished.

This government is utterly and shamelessly corrupt.
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And nobody is surprised.
 
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