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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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Quite Possibly Raving said:
While I actually agree with some of what you say about Blair, and think some of the anti-Iraq sentiment is simplified 'after the event' analysis, wasn't Wilson famous for keeping the UK out of the Vietnam war? Or do you mean support for the US war effort in some other way?
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Wilson supported the US in Viet Nam but played a line between the majority of the Labour Party being against any such support, voting against it at Labour conferences, and huge demonstrations against the War and any British involvement in it / and refusing US requests for UK armed support. He did however covertly send weapons including napalm to US forces, trained S.Vietnamese forces in Malaysia, and US special forces, and from Hong Kong intercepted military messages for the US. All this was not publicly known at the time but rumoured, suspected. He also tried to persuade the US from bombing and escalating the war, and negotiated to wind it down.
 

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QPR Oslo said:
Wilson supported the US in Viet Nam but played a line between the majority of the Labour Party being against any such support, voting against it at Labour conferences, and huge demonstrations against the War and any British involvement in it / and refusing US requests for UK armed support. He did however covertly send weapons including napalm to US forces, trained S.Vietnamese forces in Malaysia, and US special forces, and from Hong Kong intercepted military messages for the US. All this was not publicly known at the time but rumoured, suspected. He also tried to persuade the US from bombing and escalating the war, and negotiated to wind it down.
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Really interesting, thanks.
 
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YorkshireHoopster said:
Yes. I was around at the time and remember it well. She was a disaster and completely stubborn. The Falklands crisis was sparked by her ignoring the advice of Carrington's FO who had warned her what could happen if she withdrew military personnel from the Falklands. She decided to do so any way. The Argies walked in. Carrington did the honourable thing and resigned even though it was not his fault. She kept quiet and didn't. The victory which followed was a classic case of a professional army going into battle against a poorly armed, poorly trained conscript force who did not believe in the cause their leaders had chosen to prop up the last years of their reign. At last her stubbornness and refusal to listen was rewarded and therefore emboldened her that she was always right and the electorate duly lapped it all up. After all who else was there? Michael Foot in his donkey jacket. Vast swathes of the country were put on the scrap heap but the electorate bribed year after year.
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The Falklands War was sparked by Argentina invading!!
Galtieri was pandering to his electorate.
It's quite a stretch to blame Thatcher for the invasion.
The subsequent war and the way she ran it certainly bought her a lot of credit here, but Argentina badly underestimated our response.
Their Ambassador was interviewed on the radio and admitted that they didn't expect us to send a task force.
Her popularity was born out of that victory, but Argentina caused the war.
 
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West WindsR said:
I didn’t comment on it and you replied to me. Well done.
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I would have thought after your disastrous yesterday you might not have made yourself look a t22t today? You have outdone yourself.
At least the person who tweeted that, read the story. You just jumped on the bandwagon you headline grabber.
 
ELLERS said:
I would have thought after your disastrous yesterday you might not have made yourself look a t22t today? You have outdone yourself.
At least the person who tweeted that, read the story. You just jumped on the bandwagon you headline grabber.
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I posted a tweet about the headline you stupid old ****.
 
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