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West WindsR said:
Yes. Just don’t see what in that or anywhere else suggests our lot have given it their best shot with the resources on offer. Even something as basic as not allowing just anyone to waltz through the airport would have been a start.
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It's clear mistakes have been made. I don't think that's unforgiveable when faced with an unknown virus unless the government acted unreasonably. The government were acting on the advice of scientists over the airport business. The advice was that the benefit from testing incoming passengers was marginal, and resources could be used better elsewhere.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
Good post, Ellers. And Lord Sugar is (or was before Magic Grandpa) a Labour supporter and contributor

There will need to be a public enquiry at to how this government dealt with the virus and that will happen in due course. For now, I do think the government are doing their best and sure as hell the media are continually getting the mood of the country wrong.
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Last night Cummings was getting slaughtered but today things are starting to change. Those harassing images outside his and parents' homes have upset people. People are now turning on the media for the way they hound these people.
I said yesterday that the second part of his statement sounded dubious (however what do we know)? What is not acceptable is the continual harassment of the bloke. He made a statement and it's up to the individuals to decide if they believe it?
People including posters on here have been blaming the government for weeks for taking attention away from the important news... then do it themselves with Cummings!
Anyway it will blow over when the restrictions are relaxed.
 
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Honestly mate you do yourself no credit with this nonsense. Think about it a bit. Hardly anyone could tell you who any of those people are apart from Kinnock due to his dad and the circumstances are totally different to Cummings’ and also Jenrick who mysteriously doesn’t make it into the meme on whichever right wing Facebook page you’ve taken this from.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
It's clear mistakes have been made. I don't think that's unforgiveable when faced with an unknown virus unless the government acted unreasonably. The government were acting on the advice of scientists over the airport business. The advice was that the benefit from testing incoming passengers was marginal, and resources could be used better elsewhere.
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I always thought we should have closed down the airports at the beginning but the scientist said it would be low risk as the majority of the country was in lockdown and wouldn't come into contact with these people arriving
 
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West WindsR said:
Honestly mate you do yourself no credit with this nonsense. Think about it a bit. Hardly anyone could tell you who any of those people are apart from Kinnock due to his dad and the circumstances are totally different to Cummings’ and also Jenrick who mysteriously doesn’t make it into the meme on whichever right wing Facebook page you’ve taken this from.
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thing is Watford 'you can't have one rule for one'... i think you said that?
 
Coronavirus: PM hit by resignation as battle over fate of adviser Dominic Cummings grows
A Tory MSP calls the move a "disaster" that shows "exactly why" the Downing Street aide should go, and predicts more resignations.
 
I’m not sure about this legal precedent that the issue goes away if you can go long enough without being punished for it but I hope to be tried at the court of Ellers should I ever face trial.
 
It's getting beyond embarrassing, the excuses, the whataboutary. Cummings is a high profile representative for those who instituted the rules, if you can't trust them to abide by their own rules, how can anybody be expected to abide? It's a ****ing joke, not exactly surprising though
 
I have no doubt Ellers is right they would have slipped him back into a position, maybe a few months down the line, that is to be dealt with as and when, but they have misjudged public opinion. The correct thing to do would have been for him to resign rather than all the lies and extremely loose interpretations of the rules, oh I read that it was Cummings wife who had relatives who lived close by .
 
Michael Gove gave three different reasons why Dominic Cummings went to Barnard Castle. 1. BBC Breakfast - Making sure he was safe to drive 2. R4 Today - Preparing to return to work 3. Sky News - Exercise

When did the rules change enabling you to drive somewhere for exercise?
This really is becoming embarrassing
 
Stroller said:
No wonder @ELLERS thinks we should move on.....

https://order-order.com/2020/05/26/boris-net-approval-goes-negative-government-approval-drops-16-points/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: guidofawkes (Guy Fawkes' blog of parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracy)

I nearly used the same info from the Independent, but thought that he would dismiss that as being from a 'leftie' rag.

Guido is of course unimpeachable.
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El classico like I say, every cloud and all that
 
bobmid said:
Michael Gove gave three different reasons why Dominic Cummings went to Barnard Castle. 1. BBC Breakfast - Making sure he was safe to drive 2. R4 Today - Preparing to return to work 3. Sky News - Exercise

When did the rules change enabling you to drive somewhere for exercise?
This really is becoming embarrassing
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About a month after this happened.
 
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