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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I've known actuaries that have more charisma than Wrong-Daily. Surely Labour isn't going to shoot itself in the foot again?
Twice is never enough for the electorate to tire of the sitting tenants
in Whitehall
or for the opposition to get its act together. Remember the fiasco on the blue side in the 90s after John major's departure Ian Duncan Smith and then Michael Howard. I think many wondered then if the Tories would ever be a political force again. All the charisma of being slapped in the face by a wet fish and in the case of IDS more brain cells
 
Twice is never enough for the electorate to tire of the sitting tenants
in Whitehall
or for the opposition to get its act together. Remember the fiasco on the blue side in the 90s after John major's departure Ian Duncan Smith and then Michael Howard. I think many wondered then if the Tories would ever be a political force again. All the charisma of being slapped in the face by a wet fish and in the case of IDS more brain cells

Yeah, Hague came before IDS and he didn't set the world alight either, although he proved to be a solid minister later
 
Arise Sir Nigel, rumours that Farage to get a knighthood in the New Years honours. That's really going to piss the twatterati off... <laugh>
A knighthood for what?

Failing to get elected to Westminster by himself or anybody in his party.

Surely, her majersty doesn't reward failure?.
 
Workers' rights, environmental protections and food standards aren't outdated Ellers, they are things that any responsible modern government should prioritise. Johnson is already signalling that he doesn't care for ansy of them.

No he's not, you are.

He'll put in place our own protections.
 
Burgon4LabourLeader‏@Ninjamoose69 4h4 hours ago
Labour's whole argument about helping the poor is undermined by one very simple fact. They were in Government for a solid 13 years with massive majorities and the poor were still poor whilst the rich got richer. We've seen what you can do, or more accurately, what you can't do.
 
Titania McGrath‏@TitaniaMcGrath 3h3 hours ago
In order to revitalise the Labour Party, we’re going to have to win over the hearts and minds of all those fascist racist misogynist working-class gammons who were too stupid to vote the correct way last time.
 
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Altogether now...Aaaahhhh...

She was supposed to be leaving the country ages ago, she just can't resist being a victim of democracy...

My offer to take her to the airport still stands...<laugh>

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so thats where santa and his helpers go for eleven months of the year

Tories to appoint Brexit-supporting experts as peers in a bid to balance the 'Remainiac' House of Lords
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Bray’s Final Shouty Hurrah
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Like the Japanese soldier who kept fighting for 30 years after the Second World War had ended, Westminster’s favourite tinnitus-inducer Steve Bray is back outside Parliament today, for what he claims is his final hurrah. As usual, his hurrah is aggressively noisy…
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Donned in a new, more funeral-esque grey hat, draped in a black and white flag, Bray is “mourning the death of democracy”. Not everyone is as depressed as Mr Stop Brexit though…
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When asked, Steve couldn’t tell Guido what his plans are for January 31st but the Remainer protesters are seemingly revelling in the idea that “now you’ll have to take responsibility” for Brexit – Something Brexiteers have been asking for for three years.
Similarly, Steve will now have to take responsibility for paying for his £6 million Westminster pad
 
Bray’s Final Shouty Hurrah
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Like the Japanese soldier who kept fighting for 30 years after the Second World War had ended, Westminster’s favourite tinnitus-inducer Steve Bray is back outside Parliament today, for what he claims is his final hurrah. As usual, his hurrah is aggressively noisy…
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Donned in a new, more funeral-esque grey hat, draped in a black and white flag, Bray is “mourning the death of democracy”. Not everyone is as depressed as Mr Stop Brexit though…
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When asked, Steve couldn’t tell Guido what his plans are for January 31st but the Remainer protesters are seemingly revelling in the idea that “now you’ll have to take responsibility” for Brexit – Something Brexiteers have been asking for for three years.
Similarly, Steve will now have to take responsibility for paying for his £6 million Westminster pad

What a twat.
 
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Poland may have to leave EU, Supreme Court warns
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Image caption Protesters have rallied in towns and cities across Poland in support of the country's judges
Poland could have to leave the EU over its judicial reform proposals, the country's Supreme Court has warned.
The proposals would allow judges to be dismissed if they questioned the government's judicial reforms.
Judges say the proposals threaten the primacy of EU law and could be an attempt to gag the judiciary.
Poland has already been referred to the European Court of Justice (ECJ) regarding rules for judges.
Under the proposals put forward by the socially conservative Law and Justice party government, judges can be punished for engaging in "political activity".
Any judge that questioned the legitimacy of judges nominated by the National Council of the Judiciary could be handed a fine or in some cases dismissed.
Politicians will start discussing the proposals on Thursday.
The ruling party claims changes to the law are needed to tackle corruption and overhaul the judicial system, which it says is still haunted by the communist era. But the EU accused Law and Justice (PiS) of politicising the judiciary since it came to power in 2015.
The Supreme Court said the party was undermining the principle of the primacy of EU law over national law. It said in a statement: "Contradictions between Polish and EU law.... will in all likelihood lead to an intervention by EU institutions regarding an infringement of EU treaties, and in the longer run [will lead to] the need to leave the European Union."
It also said the proposed bill was "evidently" designed to allow President Andrzej Duda to pick a new head of the court before a presidential election which is expected in May.
The court's chief justice, Professor Malgorzata Gersdorf, likened the governing party's proposals to the days of martial law in 1981 in communist Poland.
"I would therefore ask that the hatred of judges and courts stops being used as a weapon in the struggle for power, especially since repression, as in 1981, would be a sad expression of powerlessness rather than a manifestation of strength," she wrote in a statement on the court's website.
Polish judges are nominated by the National Judicial Council (NCJ), a body that is supposed to safeguard the independence of the judiciary, and which until recently consisted of a majority of judges selected by their peers.
However, in 2018 the ruling party changed the law so that the majority of judges sitting on the NCJ were appointed by the lower house of parliament, which is controlled by PiS.
Poland's NCJ had its membership of the European Network of Councils for the Judiciary suspended on the grounds it was no longer politically independent.
Earlier this month, Poland saw thousands of people protest in cities and towns to show solidarity with judges who they said were facing intimidation. They called for the reinstatement of one judge, Pawel Juszczyszyn, who was dismissed from his post for questioning the appointment of another judge by the NCJ.
 
Altogether now...Aaaahhhh...

She was supposed to be leaving the country ages ago, she just can't resist being a victim of democracy...

My offer to take her to the airport still stands...<laugh>

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Silly remoaner.
 
Poland may have to leave EU, Supreme Court warns
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Image caption Protesters have rallied in towns and cities across Poland in support of the country's judges
Poland could have to leave the EU over its judicial reform proposals, the country's Supreme Court has warned.
The proposals would allow judges to be dismissed if they questioned the government's judicial reforms.
Judges say the proposals threaten the primacy of EU law and could be an attempt to gag the judiciary.
Poland has already been referred to the European Court of Justice (ECJ) regarding rules for judges.
Under the proposals put forward by the socially conservative Law and Justice party government, judges can be punished for engaging in "political activity".
Any judge that questioned the legitimacy of judges nominated by the National Council of the Judiciary could be handed a fine or in some cases dismissed.
Politicians will start discussing the proposals on Thursday.
The ruling party claims changes to the law are needed to tackle corruption and overhaul the judicial system, which it says is still haunted by the communist era. But the EU accused Law and Justice (PiS) of politicising the judiciary since it came to power in 2015.
The Supreme Court said the party was undermining the principle of the primacy of EU law over national law. It said in a statement: "Contradictions between Polish and EU law.... will in all likelihood lead to an intervention by EU institutions regarding an infringement of EU treaties, and in the longer run [will lead to] the need to leave the European Union."
It also said the proposed bill was "evidently" designed to allow President Andrzej Duda to pick a new head of the court before a presidential election which is expected in May.
The court's chief justice, Professor Malgorzata Gersdorf, likened the governing party's proposals to the days of martial law in 1981 in communist Poland.
"I would therefore ask that the hatred of judges and courts stops being used as a weapon in the struggle for power, especially since repression, as in 1981, would be a sad expression of powerlessness rather than a manifestation of strength," she wrote in a statement on the court's website.
Polish judges are nominated by the National Judicial Council (NCJ), a body that is supposed to safeguard the independence of the judiciary, and which until recently consisted of a majority of judges selected by their peers.
However, in 2018 the ruling party changed the law so that the majority of judges sitting on the NCJ were appointed by the lower house of parliament, which is controlled by PiS.
Poland's NCJ had its membership of the European Network of Councils for the Judiciary suspended on the grounds it was no longer politically independent.
Earlier this month, Poland saw thousands of people protest in cities and towns to show solidarity with judges who they said were facing intimidation. They called for the reinstatement of one judge, Pawel Juszczyszyn, who was dismissed from his post for questioning the appointment of another judge by the NCJ.
The whole rotten project is falling apart and only the fanatics cant see it.... remind you of something?
 
Twice is never enough for the electorate to tire of the sitting tenants
in Whitehall
or for the opposition to get its act together. Remember the fiasco on the blue side in the 90s after John major's departure Ian Duncan Smith and then Michael Howard. I think many wondered then if the Tories would ever be a political force again. All the charisma of being slapped in the face by a wet fish and in the case of IDS more brain cells
A Yorkshire non-entity whose 10 seconds of fame came as a schoolboy. How could I forget. Give me a prod if Labour actually come up with someone who can win voters back