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[ELLERS]

My Facebook page is being flooded with posts/pictures of Corbyn with Jews/Hindus etc saying that he doesn’t have any problems and it’s just the right-wing press. Sadly there are no pictures shown of him with the terrorist?
When people need to go to this much trouble to say something normally means the want to cover something up?

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

My Facebook page is being flooded with posts/pictures of Corbyn with Jews/Hindus etc saying that he doesn’t have any problems and it’s just the right-wing press. Sadly there are no pictures shown of him with the terrorist?
When people need to go to this much trouble to say something normally means the want to cover something up?

That can happen when you have so much of the press in the pocket of your opposition. Labour have been proven to be the less anti-Semitic of the two. The two parties have close to identical policies on Kashmir. Painting Labour as somehow anti-Hindus is just another smear to paint them as somehow pro-Islam above other religions which to Keith the scaffolder from Boston means they’re pro-terrorism.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

You can turn that on it's head though, can't you? Most interventions are counter-productive (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya) but every so often one is worthwhile, such as Kosovo. Corbyn has been right more than he has been wrong.

Surely the stopped clock in this scenario is anyone in favour of all the interventions.

It was Iraq that was the debacle. Blair sided with Bush after 9/11 even though Saddam was not involved.

An argument can be made for Afghanistan. The Taleban have been contained to allow young women to get an education and society has evolved from the stone age

Libya too is evolving after civil war.

Whereas if Corbyn had had his way, thousands of Muslims would have been executed or put in concentration camps by the Serbs IN EUROPE. No civilised nations could sit by and watch that...though Corbyn could. He washed his hands of the genocide going on.

 

[Stroller]

It was Iraq that was the debacle. Blair sided with Bush after 9/11 even though Saddam was not involved.

An argument can be made for Afghanistan. The Taleban have been contained to allow young women to get an education and society has evolved from the stone age

Libya too is evolving after civil war.

Whereas if Corbyn had had his way, thousands of Muslims would have been executed or put in concentration camps by the Serbs IN EUROPE. No civilised nations could sit by and watch that...though Corbyn could. He washed his hands of the genocide going on.

We'll give that one to Blair then.

 

[Turkish" Premier" Hoops]

We can’t all be as calm and measured as you, Turkish.

Touché, guess we all can’t be as stupid and arrogant as you.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Touché, guess we all can’t be as stupid and arrogant as you.

I can’t help being so blessed. Maybe that’s why I don’t irrationally hate everyone.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

It starts with the young as well.
In schools you can do what you want and they are not allowed to punish you! where you are not allowed to lose. Do you ever see those programs set in schools where certain kids misbehave and they cover them with cotton wool. They can smash up a class room and allowed back in after they have had a quiet break! WTF!
This mentality sets in as they are allowed to do what they want. They take this into later life and thats where the real problems start.
As for the school policy of not being allowed to lose.... just think of the referendum result? Remember what a well known poster said on here that the majority of remainers are young. Says it all.
All these things have knock on effects.

And before anyone asks... yes it was a bloody Labour government that brought in all these school rules.

When my eldest was at junior school, because he was generally well behaved the teacher started putting the disruptive kids next to him as they believed his example would rub off. Instead, he endured repeatedly being stabbed in the arm with a pencil, having his work ripped away from him and generally having his concentration spoilt by the other kids’ antics. It took an intervention from me to stop this bollocks practice.

Another kid in his year, clearly somewhere on the spectrum, was allowed to have loud temper tantrum, shout at the teacher and sit under a classroom table undisturbed during lessons if he so chose, whilst others were given extra homework or kept in at breaks for talking etc.

This is the sort of utter lunacy people in positions of authority promote these days.

 

[Steelmonkey]

When my eldest was at junior school, because he was generally well behaved the teacher started putting the disruptive kids next to him as they believed his example would rub off. Instead, he endured repeatedly being stabbed in the arm with a pencil, having his work ripped away from him and generally having his concentration spoilt by the other kids’ antics. It took an intervention from me to stop this bollocks practice.

Another kid in his year, clearly somewhere on the spectrum, was allowed to have loud temper tantrum, shout at the teacher and sit under a classroom table undisturbed during lessons if he so chose, whilst others were given extra homework or kept in at breaks for talking etc.

This is the sort of utter lunacy people in positions of authority promote these days.

****, were you watching me? I didn't think I was that bad....

 

[Sooperhoop]

It starts with the young as well.
In schools you can do what you want and they are not allowed to punish you! where you are not allowed to lose. Do you ever see those programs set in schools where certain kids misbehave and they cover them with cotton wool. They can smash up a class room and allowed back in after they have had a quiet break! WTF!
This mentality sets in as they are allowed to do what they want. They take this into later life and thats where the real problems start.
As for the school policy of not being allowed to lose.... just think of the referendum result? Remember what a well known poster said on here that the majority of remainers are young. Says it all.
All these things have knock on effects.

And before anyone asks... yes it was a bloody Labour government that brought in all these school rules.

And then they find a good excuse to stay out of school...

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[ELLERS]

When my eldest was at junior school, because he was generally well behaved the teacher started putting the disruptive kids next to him as they believed his example would rub off. Instead, he endured repeatedly being stabbed in the arm with a pencil, having his work ripped away from him and generally having his concentration spoilt by the other kids’ antics. It took an intervention from me to stop this bollocks practice.

Another kid in his year, clearly somewhere on the spectrum, was allowed to have loud temper tantrum, shout at the teacher and sit under a classroom table undisturbed during lessons if he so chose, whilst others were given extra homework or kept in at breaks for talking etc.

This is the sort of utter lunacy people in positions of authority promote these days.

That's what happens. When Labour were in power they came up with all these weird ideas about how schools should run.
When my son was at school he had the same experience as your eldest. He was doing really well in class and they thought that mixing the disruptive kids with him would rub off on them.... It did the opposite... his results went down and he was getting hassle from them. Like you I had to have a meeting with them. Bloody looney Labour!

 

[Uber_Hoop]

That's what happens. When Labour were in power they came up with all these weird ideas about how schools should run.
When my son was at school he had the same experience as your eldest. He was doing really well in class and they thought that mixing the disruptive kids with him would rub off on them.... It did the opposite... his results went down and he was getting hassle from them. Like you I had to have a meeting with them. Bloody looney Labour!

All forms of socialism tend to take everything down too the lowest common denominator.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

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[Star of David Bardsley]

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Unlikely as the Tories will probably walk it anyway but it would be fun if Farage cost Boris a majority.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

That's what happens. When Labour were in power they came up with all these weird ideas about how schools should run.
When my son was at school he had the same experience as your eldest. He was doing really well in class and they thought that mixing the disruptive kids with him would rub off on them.... It did the opposite... his results went down and he was getting hassle from them. Like you I had to have a meeting with them. Bloody looney Labour!

Not sure the government are telling teachers who to sit next to who.

 

[Turkish" Premier" Hoops]

I can’t help being so blessed. Maybe that’s why I don’t irrationally hate everyone.

I don’t irrationally hate anyone, I look at it in a rational manner and then decide if I like or dislike them, so once again don’t assume anything about me, you don’t know me and I have no ****ing desire to know you, so feel free to go play elsewhere.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

Not sure the government are telling teachers who to sit next to who.

There’s a ****ty left-liberal mindset spreading through all thinking. It’s bollocks and we’ll all pay for it for a few generations before common sense kicks back in.

 

[QPR Oslo]

Unlikely as the Tories will probably walk it anyway but it would be fun if Farage cost Boris a majority.

Tory lead down to 6 points in latest BMG poll in the Indepenent, Tory 39, Labour 33. Other pulling suggest Tory lead reducing and Remain and Leave voters going back to Labour. Labour stating to build Momentum.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Interesting, Shami and Chuck-Up were given a pretty free ride compared to this, Marr should be wearing a red rosette and top hat with vote Jezza on it...

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[Star of David Bardsley]

Interesting, Shami and Chuck-Up were given a pretty free ride compared to this, Marr should be wearing a red rosette and top hat with vote Jezza on it...

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Wait, what? Boris is running away from Neil and taking the supposedly softer option of Marr. The Tories already have quite enough cheerleaders.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Wait, what? Boris is running away from Neil and taking the supposedly softer option of Marr. The Tories already have quite enough cheerleaders.

No problem with tough questioning and Boris should face Brillo as well but compare that to Shami's interview, her 'doctrine' facilitates early release of nutters like Usman Khan but she comes on all doe-eyed and sorrowful and gets a virtually uninterrupted free ride. Remember she became Baroness Shami thanks to her whitewash of Anti-Semitism in Labour...