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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Guido Fawkes‏Verified account@GuidoFawkes 14h14 hours ago
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Tories saying life will mean life for child killers.
That of course was what was promised by parliament in 1964 when capital punishment was abolished.
In1963 6 children were killed,
67 children were killed in 2018.
Progressive justice.
 
There isnt anything better for our country than remaining in the EU. Everyone knows that now after 3 years. Let the people decide and there is only labour offering that.
 
I don't think that debate will have changed anyone's mind one jot.

As to Swinson, if they had elected a leader with more gravitas (not gender related), they would have done better imo.
 
Not on this deal Goldy. Even an ardent Tory like Ellers says it's no good so why should we have it forced upon us. When you voted to leave, you didnt vote for this deal as it didnt even exist, infact Borisov wasnt even PM!

Nothing will be perfect. This deal without the backstop is the best to move forward. And we re in step with the EU which maintains goodwill
 
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Keith Vaz’s Constituency Chair Resigns, Damn’s Corbyn as “Hoki Coki” Leader
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The chairman of Keith Vaz’s Leicester East Constituency Labour Party, Councillor John Thomas has written to Jennie Formby, the party’s General Secretary, cancelling his membership of the Labour Party after 30 years and resigning as the chairman of the Leicester East CLP.
“This is great disappointment to me, realising that I have spent over 30 years of my life working for a party that I now know that I have nothing in common with. This is not the party I joined, the party for decent working people. I can no longer follow the clown that leads the Labour Party, he is heavily influenced by the Trotskyite Len McCluskey and is now as the Hoki Coki leader, in out, and shake it all about he has turned this great party into a laughing stock.
Please cancel the direct debit made in favour of your party by me and return all money’s taken by you through Leicester City Council Labour Group to me. I am also shocked that you have chosen a candidate who is a Councillor in Jeremy Corbyn’s Islington CLP to be the Labour Candidate for Leicester East for the next General Election. Where is the democracy in all this? It is a fix and a disgrace.”
His resignation speaks for itself…
 
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Shadow chancellor John McDonnell says a Labour government would take steps to delist companies from the London Stock Exchange if they have not taken "adequate" measures to reduce carbon emissions
 
Labour MP Britain ‘must’ pay massive reparations for slavery Dawn Butler has caused controversy after saying British “banks and businesses” must pay reparations for slavery and comparing supporters of Boris Johnson to members of the racist Ku Klux Klan

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Ah Labour.
Want to take money from people who have never owned slaves and give it to people who have never been slaves
Do any of these lunatics ever say anything sensible?
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Shadow chancellor John McDonnell says a Labour government would take steps to delist companies from the London Stock Exchange if they have not taken "adequate" measures to reduce carbon emissions
That will go down well.
 
uber would like to see more of her

Voters dislike Jo Swinson the more they see her, poll finds
Matt Chorley, Red Box Editor | Kate Devlin
November 19 2019, 12:01am, The Times
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Jo Swinson will not take part in tonight’s ITV debate after a legal challenge by the Lib Dems failedFacundo Arrizabalaga/EPA
Jo Swinson suffered a double blow last night with polling showing that voters like her less as they see her more and the High Court rejecting the Liberal Democrats’ attempt to gain a place in a televised election debate tonight.
Polling analysis shows that Ms Swinson, 39, is far better known since becoming party leader in July, but almost all of those to have formed a view of her have formed a negative one. The shift has been negative even with Remain voters.
In what is shaping up to be a presidential campaign, she had hoped to force ITV to include her in tonight’s first debate with Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn. However, the legal challenge, backed by the SNP, was rejected. Lord Justice Davis,…
she is a loser.
 
Commentator just said about Boris banging on about Brexit wasn't for us but for the 5 million labour leave voters that were betrayed.
 
Exclusive: Labour sticks to 'basic' $20 cyber defence after attacks, emails show
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LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s opposition Labour Party was using a $20-a-month “basic security” service to protect its website when hackers attempted to force it offline last week and temporarily slowed down online campaigning, according to internal emails seen by Reuters.
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FILE PHOTO: Britain's opposition Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn attends a general election campaign event at the University of Wolverhampton in Telford, Britain, November 6, 2019. REUTERS/Phil Noble
Such entry-level protection is not recommended for large organisations at high risk of cyberattacks, but the messages show Labour has since decided against upgrading to an increased security package on grounds of cost.
Labour and Britain’s governing Conservative Party were hit by back-to-back cyberattacks last week, just days into an election campaign security officials have warned could be disrupted by foreign hackers.
Labour uses the services of cybersecurity firm Cloudflare to help protect its website from attacks, party emails show, but only the level the company recommends for “professional websites, blogs, and portfolios requiring basic security.”
After the attacks the party considered upgrading to the increased security measures used by large organisations to help ensure their websites stay online, but decided the $60,000 annual cost was unjustifiable, according to the emails.

While the lower-tier security package protected the Labour site from major damage, it may not be enough if the party is hit by more sophisticated attacks, said a person with knowledge of the matter.
In a separate message, Labour’s head of technology warned that the party could be at increased risk of cyberattacks on the days of two televised election debates and its upcoming manifesto launch.
A Labour party spokesman declined to comment. Cloudflare did not respond to a request for comment.
A Conservative Party spokeswoman did not respond directly to questions about the type of website defences used by the party. “We have the appropriate security measures in place to protect the party’s IT and web infrastructure so were not disrupted in the recent incident,” she said.
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Britain votes on Dec. 12 in an election called by Prime Minister Boris Johnson to try to break the Brexit deadlock in parliament more than three years since the country voted to leave the European Union.
The country’s security agencies have warned that Russia and other countries may attempt to disrupt the election with cyberattacks or divisive political messages on social media, a charge Moscow denies.
Officials say initial investigations have found nothing to link the attacks on Labour and the Conservatives to a foreign state.
The attackers used a common and relatively simple technique to attempt to force the parties’ web services offline by flooding them with traffic.
Cloudflare says its services help defend against so-called distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks by filtering out malicious website requests and absorbing the additional traffic.
Both Labour and the Conservatives have provided data to the police and Britain’s National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC), part of the GCHQ signals intelligence agency, to help investigate the attacks, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
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FILE PHOTO: A computer keyboard lit by a displayed cyber code is seen in this illustration picture taken on March 1, 2017. REUTERS/Kacper Pempel/Illustration
The NCSC said analysis was ongoing following last week’s attacks but declined to comment on specific defences used by individual political parties.
“We are confident that the Labour party took the necessary steps to deal with the attack. The attack was not successful,” a NCSC spokeswoman said, adding that major parties have been briefed on how to guard against future DDoS attacks.
 
It's a Lib Dem vote for you then, Strolls.

No, a further referendum is the right policy. I could vote Lib Dem tactically if there was a chance of unseating a Tory (even though they're just yellow Tories themselves really), but in my constituency Labour is second in a pretty safe Tory seat. My vote will go to Labour.
 
No, a further referendum is the right policy. I could vote Lib Dem tactically if there was a chance of unseating a Tory (even though they're just yellow Tories themselves really), but in my constituency Labour is second in a pretty safe Tory seat. My vote will go to Labour.
Good man. I couldn't tell you the name of the Tory up here, nobody has ever seen or heard of him/her.
 
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A poll of 16-24 year-olds found that 28 per cent had never heard of Stalin,
almost half had never heard of Lenin
and 70% had never heard of Mao Tse Tung
 
Bloody hell fair play to Farage tonight on QT. With the usual BBC planted audience he did really well.