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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
DT’s Socks said:
Are you suggesting that the Brexit party in some way accepts the current deal BJ has put forward ? If so then I think that is way off the mark.

Even if to say you are right then in what world is it acceptable that these two parties should be allowed to make any deal and what sensible person could seriously face giving their vote to these two?

People don’t actually believe that UK politics is dead ? I am expecting a minor revolution in our political system that’s starts afresh and kills off any of this rubbish spouted by a dying generation of Brexiteer fools who understandably are cross about affairs but still offer nothing going forward at all

I still cannot believe the mindset of the sheep
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Farage is currently considering reducing his parliamentary hopefuls so they don't dilute the Tory vote, but contest Labour seats where Tory victory is unlikely.

As to your other comments, there's nothing illegal in such a deal and those that would support it are Brexiters. Others have the right to vote Lib Dem and try to revoke. Or go on Corbyn's magical mystery tour.
 
bobmid said:
Democracy is a word branded around like it actually means something! It's a farce. What you said is true. The referendum was based on bullshit, propaganda and huge media influence. Some people have the sense to realise this and some people dont. If that's sits well with people then so be it. If I were a political leader, i would promise 10 grand to anyone who votes for me, than just say "ah well, didnt really mean it". That's our democracy......lies
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GoldhawkRoad said:
You can rule out it affecting tourists. The arrangement with the EU is they are all visa free.

In around 2013, Cameron asked the EU for the right to be able to restrict numbers coming into the UK who were settling and claiming social security benefits. That request was denied, and that led to the 2016 referendum. So there are some of the benefits, right there.
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How do you know at the point of entry who is coming with the aim of claiming social security ? With so many EU citizens not having passports, it's difficult to put an entry stamp onto an ID card - so how can you check how long EU citizens have been in the country ? You can prevent them from claiming social security but that is quite another thing well away from the border itself. I do not understand what the fuss is all about. When you move to Germany you have to register with the local authorities (also when you move to a new area) where you get an Anmeldebestätigung (certification that you have done so). Without this it is impossible to open a bank account or health insurance - without a bank account you cannot get a job in Germany. If you have not worked and paid into the system you cannot claim social security benefits for a certain period (not sure how long). The problem is with Britain that people think the chances of picking up semi legal cash in hand jobs is higher there - and that is the case. Even unemployment money in Germany is transferred direct onto your bank account. All of the means to reduce unwanted immigration are there already Goldie, without leaving the EU to do it. You can deport known criminals, and also ask people to leave if they have no obvious means of subsistence.
 
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GoldhawkRoad said:
Farage is currently considering reducing his parliamentary hopefuls so they don't dilute the Tory vote, but contest Labour seats where Tory victory is unlikely.

As to your other comments, there's nothing illegal in such a deal and those that would support it are Brexiters. Others have the right to vote Lib Dem and try to revoke. Or go on Corbyn's magical mystery tour.
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My facebook has been flooded with these 'Tactical voting things' for remainers. There is nothing wrong with helping other parties out. It's called cross party cooperation. :emoticon-0100-smile
We always knew that this would be the case with the Brexit party and why not do it. It makes sense for Brexitiers.
 
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ELLERS said:
America is our closest allies Watford. No one had a problem when Obama was in office. It's just a Trump thing. People need to move on from this as well because he will be getting re elected again.
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Did Farage have secret meetings with Obama?

Maybe it’ll be eighth time lucky for him if they can find a **** enough area that might just have enough Christmas turkeys to vote for him to represent them for five years. My money would be on Stoke.
 
West WindsR said:
Did Farage have secret meetings with Obama?

Maybe it’ll be eighth time lucky for him if they can find a **** enough area that might just have enough Christmas turkeys to vote for him to represent them for five years. My money would be on Stoke.
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I think he will win a seat. Last week I heard one commentator saying he was very popular in some place where he had a rally. I think people will be surprised with the Brexit party gains.
 
Farage appeals to the racist people of the country more than anyone else. It's actually good news to see trump conversing with farage. It will open a lot of peoples eyes.
 
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