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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
For ****'s sake Kiwi, give it a rest.

Posting all your usual cut and paste right wing propaganda doesn't change the fact that, whilst there may be many examples of people of the left saying things they shouldn't have, it is not in the same league as what we are seeing from this deeply nasty Johnson Tory party. This is a government deliberately carrying out a campaign of hateful incendiary language with the express purpose of inciting animosity and exacerbating division. Violence will surely follow and Johnson will have blood on his hands.
whatever
they will all have blood on their hands
no one comes out of this with any glory
 
Is this really what the court case was about
Demanding apologies for being called turkeys
Is there nothing better that can be done with their time
Humbug to the lot of em

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Scargill Calls for the Left to Oppose Remain MPs
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Former leader of the National Union of Mineworkers, Arthur Scargill, has called on all socialists to oppose any Labour MPs wanting to stay in the European Union. Good old traditional Labour…
Scargill proffered his Brexit call to arms at a meeting of the left-wing Brexit Group, Leave Fight Transform (LeFT), saying “every single MP who wants us to go back into Europe should be opposed… that is my view, as a socialist, as a Marxist”.
Scargill went even further, criticising his former comrade, Jeremy Corbyn, for his Brexit u-turn from opposing the Lisbon Treaty to now creating a pro-EU Labour Party that is “indistinguishable from the 21 MPs who have left the Tory Party”. This will be an easy point for Boris to score at the next PMQs…

Shhhhh.......wanting Brexit is only a right wing thing, didn’t you know ?
 
The Commons has adjourned for today. Back on Monday at 2:30pm.

Martin Patrick Egan‏@LFASoccerSchool 7h7 hours ago
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5:00pm finish and a 2:30pm start on Monday after all the fuss to return. Glad we called them all back. They do seem rather busy. Currently an absolute waste of taxpayers money who offer little value and have created a monumental constitutional crisis. Enjoy your long weekend.

jack the lad‏@jacktheladwrl 5h5 hours ago
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They already adhere to Corbyns 4 day week
 
For ****'s sake Kiwi, give it a rest.

Posting all your usual cut and paste right wing propaganda doesn't change the fact that, whilst there may be many examples of people of the left saying things they shouldn't have, it is not in the same league as what we are seeing from this deeply nasty Johnson Tory party. This is a government deliberately carrying out a campaign of hateful incendiary language with the express purpose of inciting animosity and exacerbating division. Violence will surely follow and Johnson will have blood on his hands.

So the Jewish MPs that have received death threats and have even had protection to attend the Labour Conference are not in the same league? Admit it Stroller, both sides are as bad as each other. Any pathetic attempts to 'Unite the Country' as spouted by both sides are totally meaningless because neither side respects each other and with the current leadership never will.

It's easy to blame Boris but he wouldn't be leader if those MPs who created this mess blocking every attempt at a solution had honoured their election manifestos, the same ones who are now kicking up such a stink. After the Euro elections we were told 'We get the message', like f*ck did they...
 
Corbin MP, Prime Ministerial Parody‏@CorbynSnap 15h15 hours ago
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Unlike Boris Johnson, I am so sensitive to the victims of politically motivated violence that I once went all the way to Tunisia to lay a wreath for the murderers.
 
It's easy to blame Boris but he wouldn't be leader if those MPs who created this mess blocking every attempt at a solution had honoured their election manifestos, the same ones who are now kicking up such a stink. After the Euro elections we were told 'We get the message', like f*ck did they...[/QUOTE]


Let's be honest. Many (including leavers) dont want 'no deal'. May's deal was apparently crap so didnt get the support from her own government to pass it. Let's see what Boris can get that's different. Hes talked the talk about wanting a deal as his preference and that he could get one during his PM campaign. I truly hope he can. I dont see it as blocking brexit or betrayal or whatever people decide to call it. I see it as many realising that it would be a bad thing for this country. The majority of MP's think that. I look at the people who are desperate for no deal and find nothing appealing about them whatsoever. Mogg, Farage, cummings etc etc. All untrustworthy ****ers.
 
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If there is no existing law which allows the action, ergo there is also no law which prohibits the action, so how can he have broken a law which doesn’t exist, and no they are clearly not the same thing, because if they were it wouldn’t be unlawful it would be breaking the law.
Nice try old chap, but in essence you’ve proved yourself to be wrong .
Are you actually taking it upon yourself to say that the Supreme Court of the UK. are wrong on a legal matter and that you and Boris Johnson are right ? Are you a lawyer ? Whatever the legal situation is, Bojo clearly believes he is above it.
 
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So the Jewish MPs that have received death threats and have even had protection to attend the Labour Conference are not in the same league? Admit it Stroller, both sides are as bad as each other. Any pathetic attempts to 'Unite the Country' as spouted by both sides are totally meaningless because neither side respects each other and with the current leadership never will.

It's easy to blame Boris but he wouldn't be leader if those MPs who created this mess blocking every attempt at a solution had honoured their election manifestos, the same ones who are now kicking up such a stink. After the Euro elections we were told 'We get the message', like f*ck did they...

More whataboutery. The reason this is on a different scale is that this is not a few rogue individuals, it's a deliberate campaign of incendiary language led by the Prime Minister. Far from uniting the country, this is designed to turn people against one another in an even more extreme way. Johnson should be focussing on getting a deal instead of rabble-rousing against those who want to prevent our leaving without one.
 
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More whataboutery. The reason this is on a different scale is that this is not a few rogue individuals, it's a deliberate campaign of incendiary language led by the Prime Minister. Far from uniting the country, this is designed to turn people against one another in an even more extreme way. Johnson should be focussing on getting a deal instead of rabble-rousing against those who want to prevent our leaving without one.
Boris doesnt want a deal it's all part of the game. He is controlled by people who want a no deal for their own agendas. He pretends hes trying to negotiate with no credible solutions or propositions. Thank god there is a majority for blocking no deal. Credit to these people who face death threats and violence due to their belief that a no deal will damage this country.
I believe it will be no good for us. Some describe it as going to be a 'bumpy road' depending on your financial situation. Others say we wont see any benefits to leaving for up to half a century! And this is from the actual no dealers! Unbelievable that the average man on the street thinks it will be a good thing!
 
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Boris doesnt want a deal it's all part of the game. He is controlled by people who want a no deal for their own agendas. He pretends hes trying to negotiate with no credible solutions or propositions. Thank god there is a majority for blocking no deal. Credit to these people who face death threats and violence due to their belief that a no deal will damage this country.

He says he wants a deal, though. Are you accusing him of lying?

Of course he's not actually trying to get a deal, it's all part of the people v parliament plan.
 
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More whataboutery. The reason this is on a different scale is that this is not a few rogue individuals, it's a deliberate campaign of incendiary language led by the Prime Minister. Far from uniting the country, this is designed to turn people against one another in an even more extreme way. Johnson should be focussing on getting a deal instead of rabble-rousing against those who want to prevent our leaving without one.


A few rogue individuals? Your red rose tinted specs must be well steamed up, probably from all the hot air at their conference...
 
Johnson's sister believes that his aggressive approach may be driven by pressure from hedge fund owners, the very people that bankrolled his leadership campaign.

Rachel Johnson told the BBC: “It could be people who have invested billions in shorting the pound in expectation of a no-deal Brexit.”

These people have a lot riding on a No Deal 31st October exit.