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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Frome-Ranger said:
I should apologise for my comment which was entirely inappropriate. I know the good folk on this board whether leave or remain, voted for what they genuinely think would be best for the country. I've probably spent too much time in the Remain echo chamber on social media and the frustration boiled over.

In answer to your question I think securing a deal is absolutely the best way out of this mess as the referendum result can be respected whilst hopefully providing some much needed reassurances and security.

I don't think I could ever respect plunging out with No Deal. Whether Yellowhammer is worst case scenario or not the fact that the things it lists are actual possibilities (however remote) just makes me think why/how can we take this risk? How can it be worth it? If it really comes down to No Deal I do think it should go back to the public.

I want to be able to respect the referendum result and would absolutely do so if we get a deal. But I do not believe our government is now acting in our best interests so chances of deal seem remote to me.

Any way thank **** the R's are back in action this weekend.
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No apology needed mate......we’ve all said things that we regret, me especially.

All good.
 
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Jack Montgomery‏Verified account@JackBMontgomery Sep 11
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Lord Carloway, the Scots judge who made what some believe was a politically-motivated judgement against prorogation and, by extension, #Brexit today, is currently fighting plans for judges to declare their vested interests on a register tooth and nail.
 
kiwiqpr said:
Jack Montgomery‏Verified account@JackBMontgomery Sep 11
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Lord Carloway, the Scots judge who made what some believe was a politically-motivated judgement against prorogation and, by extension, #Brexit today, is currently fighting plans for judges to declare their vested interests on a register tooth and nail.
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Interesting post, Kiwi. What's your view on this one? Was his judgment politically motivated, or is this just some more pathetic ****-stirring by desperate far-right ****ers?
 
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Dan Starkey 2 said:
I voted remain but think we should leave - but really don't want no deal at all. I'd have taken Mays deal like a shot as the real action will be when future partnership talks start. The EU won't be so united then and we could use that to our advantage.
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This for me too. To be pedantic, I still don't think we *should* leave, but understand that leaving with May's deal is the most pragmatic and constructive way out of the current mess.

I'd also add that I have zero sympathy with the argument that we must leave at any cost i.e. no deal.
 
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how many legal challenges are there out there all over the uk
whens the welsh one
whos funding them all

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A legal challenge in Belfast High Court that argued the Government's Brexit strategy will damage the Northern Ireland peace process has been dismissed.
 
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James O’Brien right now on @lbc “there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that #yellowhamner is a ‘worst case scenario’ document”

Here, from today’s Times, is an excerpt from the #yellowhamner report
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what is the worst case scenario
what is the worst that could actually happen
other than a corbyn govt which could take years to fix
 
kiwiqpr said:
what is the worst case scenario
what is the worst that could actually happen
other than a corbyn govt which could take years to fix
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I dont think anyone could or would be as disastrous as what we already have in the shape of Boris.
I cut and pasted that from an article written by Johnsons office
 
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kiwiqpr said:
James O’Brien right now on @lbc “there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that #yellowhamner is a ‘worst case scenario’ document”

Here, from today’s Times, is an excerpt from the #yellowhamner report
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That was the renamed version, they renamed it from 'base scenario' prior to releasing to the public.
 
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Sooperhoop said:
Interesting that this had been virtually ignored by the BBC, anyway that's 2-1 to Boris at present, can't wait for the next thrilling instalment...:emoticon-0113-sleep

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The Guardian said their original story was incorrect. They reported later it was something about leaving without a deal that the NI judges found legal. The matter of whether the Prorogation was legal or not was deferred to the Supreme Court in London for consideration with the other legal cases.
 
DT’s Socks said:
Actually I think this could be correct but although I quote business things I know it won’t ever affect the normal person in the UK
I simply trust the EU running things that I do the UK You could throw £9Bn at the NHS and it still will be short plus when we do things like HS2 that ends up going £Bns over budget and won’t work if it rains
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Yes, our once great manufacturing prowess has waned, partly to make way for a very profitable services industry. If we have a bridge to build, I'd look to Chinese know-how since they have already done great things in this area. There is expertise among European countries of course, but on an EU health issue, take a look at what the European Central Bank is doing, bringing back quantitative easing ie printing money, to stave off impending recession in the Eurozone.
 
Stroller said:
They said that the prorogation was intended to 'stymie' parliament. Johnson said otherwise. They decided he lied, as of course he did.
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Please quote the reference from the Scottish judges where they state he lied. They say he acted unlawfully. That is different. Even Joanna Cherry who was interviewed outside the court post judgement and was asked this, refused to say he lied.
 
Dan Starkey 2 said:
I voted remain but think we should leave - but really don't want no deal at all. I'd have taken Mays deal like a shot as the real action will be when future partnership talks start. The EU won't be so united then and we could use that to our advantage.
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The problem is, Dan, if we'd done that, we'd have immediately given the EU huge leverage against us in the free trade deal talks, because they would know that without the new deal, the UK would be imprisoned where it didn't want to be, inside the Customs Union as a result of the Irish backstop, with its severe restrictions on the UK to make its own free trade deals with countries worldwide. The backstop can never be acceptable - I'm encouraged by the creative thinking by the DUP that might lead to an Ireland-only solution to this problem.
 
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