Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
sb_73 said:
The horror. A great big state in the name of the people, but in fact serving the party and inflexible ideology just like every other serious socialist government. You’d be better off with a soft left social democratic government.

Besides, I said I was happier with my new, unrealistic perspective. Why would you wish to deny me this simple pleasure, especially as I’m not going to do anything to make it happen?
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Your position is not unrealistic Stan. All you need is you and a few neighbours and you have a beginning. The word Communism was always meant for the commune and not the state. Those waiting for the overthrow of the state, and then somehow hoping that the state will then dissolve and transfer power downwards are living under an illusion.
 
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Latest opinion poll. Brexit egding ahead, apparently Farage's mantra is now a vote for the Tories will give you Corbyn. Chuck-up's party disappearing faster than it appeared...

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Sooperhoop said:
Latest opinion poll. Brexit egding ahead, apparently Farage's mantra is now a vote for the Tories will give you Corbyn. Chuck-up's party disappearing faster than it appeared...

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Looking more and more like a Labour-led coalition then.
 
sb_73 said:
So what bit of his agenda is Corbyn going to sacrifice? Might get away with a coalition with the SNP in return for increases devolution and a second indyref.
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Assuming that it's before Brexit is resolved (otherwise Farage's mob are redundant), a further EU referendum would get the Lib Dems, Greens, Plaid and SNP onside. That would be plenty.
 
sb_73 said:
So what bit of his agenda is Corbyn going to sacrifice? Might get away with a coalition with the SNP in return for increases devolution and a second indyref.
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He’d have to pray for a No vote as England (and Wales & NI) are condemned to sheep voting in right wing parties forever without Scotland. Would potentially **** Labour over for decades.
 
sb_73 said:
Well good luck with that. I’m in pure fantasy land, but I have to say I feel much happier looking at current events from my new, unactionable, perspective.

For the first time for ages I’m watching Channel 4 news while cooking dinner and preloading on wine before the game. It really is the Guardian on telly, hugely and unashamedly biased and snarky, and Jon Snow isn’t even on tonight. Given that it’s a public sector broadcaster I don’t think that’s acceptable. Where the **** is the state when you need it?
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If we could just realise over the next 10 years that we should be more comfortable with our Germany Italian, French, Dutch and Spanish soul mates rather than pursue some crazy idea that us anglo Saxons are this and that we may get somewhere

Historically we should be proud of the U.K. of course but the reality is we are in deep decline culturally and certainly politically. The change will do us good imo we still have probably one of the best historical heritage to draw from

We have lost our way and the divide is split
No good talking about yesteryear imo it’s been our downfall all along. When you sell out then you only have memories imo
 
We haven’t really faced a revolution let’s all hope we get one of some sort . Put to bed any sides that we will turn red in anyway that’s cobblers FFS we invented self obsession
 
sb_73 said:
Some bloke called Sam Gyimah be ones the lucky thirteenth Candidate to become your next Prime Minister.

Me neither.
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He was PPS to a junior Minister about five years ago. Very strong credentials <doh>
 
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