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[danishqp]

My Magrethe Vestager being heavily tipped as next EU Commisioner.
Ironic that she is very, very pro UK.
Classy, classy, sassy lady.

Have I mentioned before that I’m quite fond of Magrethe?

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Who did the other 43% blame? If it was the EU I’m sure you would have told us......

I think, both equally. The EU wasn't referred to in the polling question

 

[Stroller]

I actually agree with every single word she said.
What she failed to mention is that she herself has been equally useless and has lied and flip-flopped her way to the utter, ****wittery filled ****-fest that we have been subjected to.

Sky poll today showed 33% of people blamed Parliament for the failure to reach a deal, and 24% blamed May.

May's outburst was plain embarrassing, and showed once again that she's wholly unfit for her position. I heard Chris Wilkins, her erstwhile Director of Strategy, on the wireless earlier saying that every time May is faced with a 50:50 choice she makes the wrong decision. There is no one to blame for the position we find ourselves in now but May herself and her pandering to the DUP fundamentalists and ERG loons. All she had to do was to seek a cross-party compromise after her deal failed the first time and we'd be out of the EU next Friday. She bet the farm and lost, twice. The one good thing about this whole fiasco, though, is that the Tories will be doomed whatever happens next.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

I wasn’t referring specifically to Brexit when describing the EU as chaotic. Remainers (like me) have a tendency to look at all things EU through rose tinted glasses, but it has serious and deep rooted problems which it’s not really addressing. I hope it does, because a strong EU is good for non members as well.

No dissent from me about that

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

My Magrethe Vestager being heavily tipped as next EU Commisioner.
Ironic that she is very, very pro UK.
Classy, classy, sassy lady.

Have I mentioned before that I’m quite fond of Magrethe?

From what you say, so am I

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

May's outburst was plain embarrassing, and showed once again that she's wholly unfit for her position. I heard Chris Wilkins, her erstwhile Director of Strategy, on the wireless earlier saying that every time May is faced with a 50:50 choice she makes the wrong decision. There is no one to blame for the position we find ourselves in now but May herself and her pandering to the DUP fundamentalists and ERG loons. All she had to do was to seek a cross-party compromise after her deal failed the first time and we'd be out of the EU next Friday. She bet the farm and lost, twice. The one good about this whole fiasco, though, is that the Tories will be doomed whatever happens next.

Twice only? I think she has cocked it up rather more times.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

May's outburst was plain embarrassing, and showed once again that she's wholly unfit for her position. I heard Chris Wilkins, her erstwhile Director of Strategy, on the wireless earlier saying that every time May is faced with a 50:50 choice she makes the wrong decision. There is no one to blame for the position we find ourselves in now but May herself and her pandering to the DUP fundamentalists and ERG loons. All she had to do was to seek a cross-party compromise after her deal failed the first time and we'd be out of the EU next Friday. She bet the farm and lost, twice. The one good about this whole fiasco, though, is that the Tories will be doomed whatever happens next.

You're at odds with the public, if Sky's poll can be trusted. May's negotiating skills are crap, but many MP's have behaved appallingly

 

[Stroller]

You're at odds with the public, if Sky's poll can be trusted. May's negotiating skills are crap, but many MP's have behaved appallingly

It's not her negotiating skills so much as her awful decision making and unwillingness to listen to reason that's the problem. The MPs that have behaved worst are the ERG, but she keeps bowing to them. I'm actually getting to the point where I want us to leave without a deal just to see those ****ers exposed for the traitors they are.

 

[rangercol]

May's outburst was plain embarrassing, and showed once again that she's wholly unfit for her position. I heard Chris Wilkins, her erstwhile Director of Strategy, on the wireless earlier saying that every time May is faced with a 50:50 choice she makes the wrong decision. There is no one to blame for the position we find ourselves in now but May herself and her pandering to the DUP fundamentalists and ERG loons. All she had to do was to seek a cross-party compromise after her deal failed the first time and we'd be out of the EU next Friday. She bet the farm and lost, twice. The one good thing about this whole fiasco, though, is that the Tories will be doomed whatever happens next.

Hilarious nonsense.

Your faith in the rest of the buffoons in parliament is ridiculous.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

It's not her negotiating skills so much as her awful decision making and unwillingness to listen to reason that's the problem. The MPs that have behaved worst are the ERG, but she keeps bowing to them. I'm actually getting to the point where I want us to leave without a deal just to see those ****ers exposed for the traitors they are.

That's from your Remain perspective, but the ERG and DUP have the 2016 referendum result on their side. All these motions to take control away from an elected government is shocking imo.

I'm still not convinced the EU will let a no deal happen. Member premieres are starting to have their say. They have an electorate to answer to, unlike the Brussels fat cats

 

[Stroller]

Hilarious nonsense.

Your faith in the rest of the buffoons in parliament is ridiculous.

Like Bercow, they are just doing their jobs in holding Government to account. May negotiated a bad deal, but thought she could bully it through Parliament. She's failed twice and will likely fail again. She's made this country a laughing stock.

 

[kiwiqpr]

It's not her negotiating skills so much as her awful decision making and unwillingness to listen to reason that's the problem. The MPs that have behaved worst are the ERG, but she keeps bowing to them. I'm actually getting to the point where I want us to leave without a deal just to see those ****ers exposed for the traitors they are.

i cant work out anymore who the traitors are

 

[Deleted.......]

I actually agree with every single word she said.
What she failed to mention is that she herself has been equally useless and has lied and flip-flopped her way to the utter, ****wittery filled ****-fest that we have been subjected to.

As stings in the tail go that's a belter Agree with every word

 

[Stroller]

That's from your Remain perspective, but the ERG and DUP have the 2016 referendum result on their side. All these motions to take control away from an elected government is shocking imo.

I'm still not convinced the EU will let a no deal happen. Member premieres are starting to have their say. They have an electorate to answer to, unlike the Brussels fat cats

They won't want to let No Deal happen, but if May's deal fails again and she refuses to go back with an alternative plan, it will. I think she is bloody-minded and foolhardy enough to just let it happen and her pathetic outburst last night was designed to try to absolve herself of blame when it does. History (and the electorate) won't look kindly.

 

[QPR Oslo]

They won't want to let No Deal happen, but if May's deal fails again and she refuses to go back with an alternative plan, it will. I think she is bloody-minded enough to just let it happen and her pathetic outburst last night was just to try and absolve herself of blame when it does. History won't look kindly.

I've just finished reading people close to May (hardt too believe there are any) say she went No Deal on Wednesday night. To be precise at 01.06 GMT when her hard disc crashed

 

[DT’s Socks]

See the petition vote is climbing like a rocket
Interesting to see where it finishes

Over 1/2 million since it went live again this evening

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

They won't want to let No Deal happen, but if May's deal fails again and she refuses to go back with an alternative plan, it will. I think she is bloody-minded and foolhardy enough to just let it happen and her pathetic outburst last night was designed to try to absolve herself of blame when it does. History (and the electorate) won't look kindly.

And yet she's popular in the polls...and the public blame MP's more. A lot of people admire her resilience

 

[Stroller]

And yet she's popular in the polls...and the public blame MP's more. A lot of people admire her resilience

Eddie the Eagle was popular with the British public. We tend to like a plucky loser, even if they're plainly unqualified for their job.

 

[Sooperhoop]

I've just finished reading people close to May (hardt too believe there are any) say she went No Deal on Wednesday night. To be precise at 01.06 GMT when her hard disc crashed

Her motherboard is f*cked, so are we...

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Eddie the Eagle was popular with the British public. We tend to like a plucky loser, even if their plainly unqualified for their job.

I think a lot of the public see May's task in uniting the various factions as the equivalent of Eddie achieving gold