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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Stroller said:
Well Bercow would be right to disallow it then.
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Not so sure about that... He was wrong not to drop Spelmen amendment after she pulled out. He did recently so why not today? He will be gone soon as Tories don't like him.
 
ELLERS said:
Not so sure about that... He was wrong not to drop Spelmen amendment after she pulled out. He did recently so why not today? He will be gone soon as Tories don't like him.
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It wasn't just Spellman, though. There were other signatories that did still want to move the amendment, so he was right to allow it.

ERG still playing games with people's futures by saying they will vote down May's deal again, hoping they can run the clock down to March 29th with No Deal. Parliament will already have voted to seek an extension to A50 by then, though. May will have to go to the EU with a reason to grant the extension - a GE, a new referendum, or a proposal for a deal which will gain the support of Parliament. A permanent Customs Union.
 
I've just been flicking through Erskine May, and on page 397 it says......

"A motion or an amendment which is the same, in substance, as a question which has been decided during a session may not be brought forward again during that same session." It continues: "Whether the second motion is substantively the same as the first is a matter for the chair."

Bercow may well decide that she can't bring her motion back again without some significant change to it.
 
So extension vote tomorrow. But not to worry. The ERG - all 40 of them will win and force us out without a deal. Then everyone who voted for what everyone said they would prefer we do ie leave with a deal can talk about traitors and Establishment betrayal. Is TM going to whip them or not tomorrow? She should be whipped for brazenly lying to the House of Commons last night.

Who the hell cares? She's had the rug pulled out from under her and the House of Commons can now do what it should have done 18 months ago - hold a series of indicative votes and frame a deal based on what a majority of MPs will accept.

If anyone is to blame look no further than the ERG 40 and the DUP 11 who overplayed their hand. The mob can be directed their way when the people are looking for culprits.
 
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Stroller said:
I've just been flicking through Erskine May, and on page 397 it says......

"A motion or an amendment which is the same, in substance, as a question which has been decided during a session may not be brought forward again during that same session." It continues: "Whether the second motion is substantively the same as the first is a matter for the chair."

Bercow may well decide that she can't bring her motion back again without some significant change to it.
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"I've just been flicking through Erskine May...………" You are kidding aren't you? Most people either drown their sorrows , beat their partner or kick the cat when their team has been humiliated. Again.

She can do what she likes because she will lie just as she did when she returned from Brussels waving a piece of paper whereby she had got peace with Europe in our time. Anyway anything she does put forward will be amended out of sight before it is voted upon. Parliament has had enough
 
YorkshireHoopster said:
"I've just been flicking through Erskine May...………" You are kidding aren't you? Most people either drown their sorrows , beat their partner or kick the cat when their team has been humiliated. Again.

She can do what she likes because she will lie just as she did when she returned from Brussels waving a piece of paper whereby she had got peace with Europe in our time. Anyway anything she does put forward will be amended out of sight before it is voted upon. Parliament has had enough
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Yes, I was kidding of course. It does say that though, apparently.
 
Stroller said:
Yes, I was kidding of course. It does say that though, apparently.
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That's ruined my night. I was really hoping people up and down the country were thumbing through it to see what comes next. Spoilsport!
 
I’m just bored of the whole caper now.....I dunno if I, or this board could take another 3 months of this ****e....
Stay or go.....let’s do it on the 29th for everybody’s sake.
 
Stroller said:
It wasn't just Spellman, though. There were other signatories that did still want to move the amendment, so he was right to allow it.

ERG still playing games with people's futures by saying they will vote down May's deal again, hoping they can run the clock down to March 29th with No Deal. Parliament will already have voted to seek an extension to A50 by then, though. May will have to go to the EU with a reason to grant the extension - a GE, a new referendum, or a proposal for a deal which will gain the support of Parliament. A permanent Customs Union.
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You’ve given every outcome! The ERG are the only MPs sticking up for the people. Only one playing games is Comrade Corbyn. Even tonight
Labour MPs are pd with his position and there maybe more defections.
It will probably be Mays deal or GE. Saying that the default is law and if they start changing It, I hope there is a GE so we can sack these betrayers.
 
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