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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
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Corbyn always been anti Europe personally
It that new news?

The sheep running around together looking for any new flower to ba at

Wait until they are put into the new field on the 29th March ... looking forward to watching that
 
DT’s Socks said:
Corbyn always been anti Europe personally
It that new news?

The sheep running around together looking for any new flower to ba at

Wait until they are put into the new field on the 29th March ... looking forward to watching that
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I think that it is new news in that this very clearly demonstrates how strong his anti-EU feelings truly are. It should test further the thousands of Labour members who are very pro-EU, and are increasingly frustrated at Labour's [lack of] position. It probably won't as his acolytes are entirely blinded to reality, and if we're honest, there's not much choice offered by other parties for them.

I personally think the Labour positioning is good politics in a very tricky circumstance, but that doesn't stop it being rank hypocrisy.
 
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DT’s Socks said:
Corbyn always been anti Europe personally
It that new news?

The sheep running around together looking for any new flower to ba at

Wait until they are put into the new field on the 29th March ... looking forward to watching that
Click to expand...

Unlike the europhile sheep who are going to be in our nice new field, maybe we’ll let them enjoy the fruit or maybe just treat them like the quisling sheep they are and send them to their beloved corrupt EU to fight and starve amongst themselves as it crashes and burns, [HASHTAG]#europhilefuturestealingparasites[/HASHTAG].
 
I actually think Jezza is more Eurosceptic than I am. <yikes>
His line "they will make you vote again until they get the result".<laugh>
 
The French are at it again... any excuse to strike. Frexit?
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Gilets jaunes demonstrators march with an anti-EU banner calling for a referendum and general strike in Paris, 26 January 2019.
 
Well, I learned something that I have been hitherto unaware of this morning, next week Dr Fox is bringing a bill to Parliament to enable the UK to have zero tariffs on all imports from anywhere post Brexit. Note that this does not involve other countries having no tariffs on our exports, it’s a unilateral decision.

They had a bloke from the Adam Smith Institute, the free market capitalism think tank, on the wireless to sing the praises of this idea. I bet Dr Fox wishes that this chap hadn’t turned up, as he graphically and enthusiastically put the case in terms of how brilliant it would be for consumers to flood the country with cheap imports, cheerfully agreeing that British manufacturing and agriculture would suffer and jobs would be lost unless they get ‘more efficient and competitive’, but it doesn’t matter because the consumer wins and anyway we are a service based economy (2.7 million people are employed in UK manufacturing, 500,000 in agriculture), and the sooner we can do trade treaties with other countries so we can recognise their standards and regulations (which would be the only things stemming the deluge of incoming crap) the better.

Let’s just pause to ponder this for a moment.

- it will be good for consumers - if they have a job and want cheap stuff
- it will decrease tax revenue, both from tariffs, VAT and income tax from the newly unemployed
- simultaneously welfare and health costs, the inevitable follow on from unemployment, will rise
- it will be bad for the environment, as more useless crap is transported around the world
- to compete with low cost foreign firms British firms will have to cut costs and quality, unless they bank on their ‘superior’ quality attracting customers
- it has absolutely zero reciprocal benefit to exports

This is the Fox, Mogg, Johnson true agenda. It’s nothing to do with sovereignty or borders or immigration, and everything to do with red in tooth and claw capitalism, unfettered competition where the uncompetitive die along with plenty of collateral damage. It’s an ideological position of the most extreme type, economic fundamentalists, the type who don’t care that the one thing this government can justifiably boast of, employment levels, could be thrown under the bus.

Call me a protectionist, but I like protecting things.
 
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Breaking: NATO to hold summit in London in December. Donald Trump to make second visit to UK.
Cue all those wasters to demonstrate and Sadick Khan to get another blimp. Cue all those anti-anything mob.
<doh>
 
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sb_73 said:
Well, I learned something that I have been hitherto unaware of this morning, next week Dr Fox is bringing a bill to Parliament to enable the UK to have zero tariffs on all imports from anywhere post Brexit. Note that this does not involve other countries having no tariffs on our exports, it’s a unilateral decision.

They had a bloke from the Adam Smith Institute, the free market capitalism think tank, on the wireless to sing the praises of this idea. I bet Dr Fox wishes that this chap hadn’t turned up, as he graphically and enthusiastically put the case in terms of how brilliant it would be for consumers to flood the country with cheap imports, cheerfully agreeing that British manufacturing and agriculture would suffer and jobs would be lost unless they get ‘more efficient and competitive’, but it doesn’t matter because the consumer wins and anyway we are a service based economy (2.7 million people are employed in UK manufacturing, 500,000 in agriculture), and the sooner we can do trade treaties with other countries so we can recognise their standards and regulations (which would be the only things stemming the deluge of incoming crap) the better.

Let’s just pause to ponder this for a moment.

- it will be good for consumers - if they have a job and want cheap stuff
- it will decrease tax revenue, both from tariffs, VAT and income tax from the newly unemployed
- simultaneously welfare and health costs, the inevitable follow on from unemployment, will rise
- it will be bad for the environment, as more useless crap is transported around the world
- to compete with low cost foreign firms British firms will have to cut costs and quality, unless they bank on their ‘superior’ quality attracting customers
- it has absolutely zero reciprocal benefit to exports

This is the Fox, Mogg, Johnson true agenda. It’s nothing to do with sovereignty or borders or immigration, and everything to do with red in tooth and claw capitalism, unfettered competition where the uncompetitive die along with plenty of collateral damage. It’s an ideological position of the most extreme type, economic fundamentalists, the type who don’t care that the one thing this government can justifiably boast of, employment levels, could be thrown under the bus.

Call me a protectionist, but I like protecting things.
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zzzzzz more anti Brexit rhetoric. How about posting something positive or discuss why Corbyn is so Eurosceptic? Seriously Sb your posts were alway measured now you sound just like some of the others.
 
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