Off Topic The Politics Thread

[Star of David Bardsley]

By happy coincidence Armistice Day, November 11, falls on Remembrance Sunday this year, the centenary of the end of the Great War.

Some members of the House of Lords have called for the shops to be closed on this day, just the once. I wholeheartedly agree, a good way to get those who may be a little ignorant of our past and the sacrifices ordinary people made to be reminded of it, through a little personal inconvenience (though I hope that people on low wages would still get them). It won’t happen of course, the damage to GDP would be too much....shopping is our saviour.

Just realised that I won’t be in the country on that day, so it’s really none of my business. I have set a reminder in my phone so 11.00 on 11/11/18 doesn’t slip by unnoticed.

Why close the shops? The people who wouldn’t observe it won’t suddenly observe it because Tesco is closed.

Sunday trading laws in general are a massive bugbear of mine. What’s special about Sunday that means I can’t buy a pint of milk at 6pm?

 

[BobbyD]

Why close the shops? The people who wouldn’t observe it won’t suddenly observe it because Tesco is closed.

Sunday trading laws in general are a massive bugbear of mine. What’s special about Sunday that means I can’t buy a pint of milk at 6pm?

spoken to like a true londoner .

But yes, that **** doesn't happen over in HK, get them shops open this archaic practice should be outlawed

 

[West London Willy]

I don’t think his supporters care, they know who he is and what he is like. See Bobbys post below. What he says isn’t important, and neither is what he does in non Presidential matters. As long as he delivers, or is seen to be trying to deliver on their interests they will ignore his obvious ethical and intellectual shortcomings. Plus he has the great advantage of not being Hilary Clinton, not playing by the old elite’s rules.

He’s not though. He’s not even trying. The announcement of a $12 billion dollar welfare package for farmers hit by his dumb tariff and trade war fallout is just the latest example. Putting the country into more debt (by borrowing from China, cos no US banks will touch him) to ‘fix’ a problem he created only appeals to his base in soundbite form, he doesn’t want them to consider context, because then they would suss him out.

In other news, Ivankas fashion line has collapsed. Like ‘businessman’ father, like daughter...

 

[QPR Oslo]

Why close the shops? The people who wouldn’t observe it won’t suddenly observe it because Tesco is closed.

Sunday trading laws in general are a massive bugbear of mine. What’s special about Sunday that means I can’t buy a pint of milk at 6pm?

The calves need a suck on Sundays.

 

[sb_73]

spoken to like a true londoner .

But yes, that **** doesn't happen over in HK, get them shops open this archaic practice should be outlawed

I’m sure it used to happen in HK when I lived there many years ago. It was really tough going a day a week without being able to browse in Lane Crawford. And having Statue Square cluttered up with Filipina maids having a day off. Disgraceful.

 

[BobbyD]

When did our society come start coming up with so many buzzwords?

First there was white privilege (to be fair racism is still pretty endemic in parts of the world), then there was the rights of trans.

Now i see this posted on the BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/arti..._linkname=article_thinprivilege_contentcard16

Thin privilege!

 

[KooPeeArr]

When did our society come start coming up with so many buzzwords?

First there was white privilege (to be fair racism is still pretty endemic in parts of the world), then there was the rights of trans.

Now i see this posted on the BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/arti..._linkname=article_thinprivilege_contentcard16

Thin privilege!

And there was I thinking that sitting comfortably on plane or train seats was the privilege of first/business class customers.

 

[Stroller]

Especially for Goldie.........

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When did our society come start coming up with so many buzzwords?

First there was white privilege (to be fair racism is still pretty endemic in parts of the world), then there was the rights of trans.

Now i see this posted on the BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/arti..._linkname=article_thinprivilege_contentcard16

Thin privilege!

About bloody time too for this 5 foot 11 9 stone 4 unentitled moron

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Especially for Goldie.........

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Thank you for thinking of me, Strolls!

If the old pickled saukraut thinks Johnson and Farage have gone away without a proper Brexit, he needs to think again. As soon as May waters down the Chequers deal, which of course she will do, bending to the demands of her overlords...they'll be back!

 

[Steelmonkey]

Sunday trading laws in general are a massive bugbear of mine. What’s special about Sunday that means I can’t buy a pint of milk at 6pm?

You need to move to Scotland then WWR, all shops open on Sundays, supermarkets for 24hours. My local Tesco only closes between 12am and 3am on Sat & Sun mornings as it's next to a nightclub and there used to be fights in the sandwich aisle at kicking out time!

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

You need to move to Scotland then WWR, all shops open on Sundays, supermarkets for 24hours. My local Tesco only closes between 12am and 3am on Sat & Sun mornings as it's next to a nightclub and there used to be fights in the sandwich aisle at kicking out time!

Fighting in Scotland? You're kidding me

 

[kiwiqpr]

You need to move to Scotland then WWR, all shops open on Sundays, supermarkets for 24hours. My local Tesco only closes between 12am and 3am on Sat & Sun mornings as it's next to a nightclub and there used to be fights in the sandwich aisle at kicking out time!

be the only time they would have seen a sandwich
now fighting around the kebab van over deep fried mars bars i can believe

 

[kiwiqpr]

time to ban the face coverings
islam in the uk

Revealed: Afghan mother of acid attack boy, 3, 'was tracked down by her violent asylum seeker husband after she appeared in newspaper without her veil' as police continue to quiz him

 

[kiwiqpr]

Nigel farage is doing a tour of Australia and New Zealand
What the **** have we done to deserve that

 

[sb_73]

What would yo do?

Interesting citizenship story on BBC News website this morning.

A German lady, who retains German citizenship, moved to the UK in 1971. She married a UK citizen (I think she is now either divorced or widowed, because her husband doesn’t get a mention in the story) has a daughter who is a British citizen, owns property in the UK, worked for 40 years as a physio in the NHS and has a full British state pension as well as an NHS pension. No criminal record. In 1979 she was granted indefinite leave to remain in the UK.

Four years ago she moved to Portugal, not with the intention of staying there permanently, as all her family are in the UK (only one cousin in Germany). But when you are resident outside the UK for more than 2 years your indefinite leave to remain in the UK lapses.

Now no one can tell her what her status is - even if we agree a withdrawal deal on the terms already discussed for citizens, it seems she would have to return to the UK now, or at least during the transition period, and wait the five years to be able to apply for permanent residency or citizenship. She would be treated exactly the same as any EU citizen who had never been to the UK before coming to the UK now or during transition. If we leave with no deal at the very least she faces a period of huge stress and uncertainty.

Of course she regrets not applying for British Citizenship years ago, but like many others in her position, was told that it wasn’t really necessary. And I am sure that there are many British citizens in a similar position.

In the light of her contribution to the UK, family ties etc I say give her citizenship, regardless of deal or no deal. And examine all other cases on their merits.

 

[BobbyD]

Obvious no brainer here to give her citizenship.

Not sure using Mays hardlined immigration policy she would get it though if this wasn't brought to light in the media

 

[colognehornet]

What would yo do?

Interesting citizenship story on BBC News website this morning.

A German lady, who retains German citizenship, moved to the UK in 1971. She married a UK citizen (I think she is now either divorced or widowed, because her husband doesn’t get a mention in the story) has a daughter who is a British citizen, owns property in the UK, worked for 40 years as a physio in the NHS and has a full British state pension as well as an NHS pension. No criminal record. In 1979 she was granted indefinite leave to remain in the UK.

Four years ago she moved to Portugal, not with the intention of staying there permanently, as all her family are in the UK (only one cousin in Germany). But when you are resident outside the UK for more than 2 years your indefinite leave to remain in the UK lapses.

Now no one can tell her what her status is - even if we agree a withdrawal deal on the terms already discussed for citizens, it seems she would have to return to the UK now, or at least during the transition period, and wait the five years to be able to apply for permanent residency or citizenship. She would be treated exactly the same as any EU citizen who had never been to the UK before coming to the UK now or during transition. If we leave with no deal at the very least she faces a period of huge stress and uncertainty.

Of course she regrets not applying for British Citizenship years ago, but like many others in her position, was told that it wasn’t really necessary. And I am sure that there are many British citizens in a similar position.

In the light of her contribution to the UK, family ties etc I say give her citizenship, regardless of deal or no deal. And examine all other cases on their merits.

I would say that anyone with a claim on a full British pension and 40 years of residence would qualify for a British passport, regardless of time having been spent abroad at a later date. However - if Britain leaves the EU. then Germany would no longer automatically recognize dual citizenship (dual nationality is only with other EU. states in Germany) so she may have to give up her German nationality on becoming British.

 

[danishqp]

Have a similar personal issue.
Have a British passport as I was born in St. Mary's Harrow Road of Spanish parents.
Always loved England, especially London -could have had a Spanish passport many times over but this particula "Dago" was a Cocney Dago.
My choice odf passport did not stop me loving Spain slightly more than England but to no detriment to either - I was British though.
Moved to Denmark in 2004 - loved it, loved it before we moved over and love it more every day - today, not only is it home, it is my favourite place on Earth.
I qualify easily for a Danish passport - but ... I'm not Danish!! Again it does not stop me working and fighting for the Danish economy, I add to the social aspect by being a strong part of the local football club in Under 14 training, in addition I speak at local schools and am invited guest on a regular basis to Danish Universities discussing the most awaful of subjects - Supply chain Managemnt.
Now - I in my own "Zorba the Greek way" - I now love Denmark more than Spain or England - does that mean I'm Danish? Hell no - it means I love Denmark but I can never be Danish.

I cannot now vote in England, Spain or Denmark at General Elections - I have Danish parliamentary friends who are somewhat disturbed by the notion of how I've become disenfranchised ( I can vote at local elections in DK) and how we fight in that very name for democracy.

I will not become Danish - I know I have the safet net of a relatively high level position, that my work to fight for Danish comapnies against the steady move to the East has been well documented and would be the irony of all ironies to evict me.

But my and others' quandry remains - because we live somewhere else does not make us from there - but it does not stop us loving it and working for it even more than those that were.

Have spent the last 2 weeks on a beach in Puerto de Mazarron, the same place I've been going to for the last 46 years - on that beach now we have some tremendous bars where strangers from all countries have gathered to discuss Brexit - all with deep and genuine concern for each other.

What were these borders that you cold not control? - Denmark does it - Hell it won't even let in anyone from Sweden (their brothers, without cheking them anymore.
What genuinely were the laws you did not like? - No one has more outstanding cases against it than DK where it has flouted EU laws.
Who were the real foreigners you didn't like? - As I've said before - you do know the Stans will be coming over even more afterwards.

We all get it that the EU politicians needed and need a bloddy nose - the Dick Tories have played a blinder here haven't they!!

Listen, or read!! - All this bullshit paper , radio and politician talk is just that bullshit.

Europeans will not be forced out of countires that they have bulit succesful lives i for many years - it won't happen.
Trade will continue - not becasue the polotiicans say so - bacause Business will say so.

However, congratulations, it is the talking point along with the weather for Albarinho quaffing upper clas wannabees from Euroland!!

Hasta la vista babies.

You alright me ol chinas?

 

[kiwiqpr]

Why can't you vote in denmark
Do you only get that right if you were born there
You left England 14 years ago
why should you be allowed to vote there
Did you live in spain