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It was a rehearsal, Col. People know more about it now.
They certainly wouldn't vote for No Deal (and didn't last time).
We just go round in circles mate.
We voted to leave, not on a certain deal, just to leave.
****ing leave!!
It's all part of the Not606 portents - there is no second referendum...
Yes, it was 60% Remain. I reckon that's what it will be when the real referendum happens.
Lights blue touch paper and stands well back
At least he's sober and on his feet...unlike Junckers
heard a great line yesterday from someone (can't remember his name) say it was easy for the EU to do a free trade deal with Japan 10,000 miles away but can't manage one with the UK 20 miles away.
Labour's shadow sports minister suggests St George's flag is associated with 'far-Right ideology'
Rosena Allin-Khan is Labour's shadow sports minister
Labour’s shadow sports minister has suggested that the St George’s Cross has been tainted by Brexit and has become associated with “far-Right ideology”.
Rosena Allin-Khan has claimed that there was a “significant lack” of flags being flown during this summer’s World Cup, despite a recent survey finding that people’s pride in being English had risen on the back of the national team’s performance in Russia.
In an interview with The House magazine, Ms Khan said: “I think that many people feel that flying a St George’s cross is synonymous with far-Right ideology and that sometimes prevents them from doing so because they don’t want to be perceived as such.
“During previous World Cups between 2000-2010 you could walk 20 metres and see flags in windows, flags on cars, flags on shops.
“Despite more sprouting up as the tournament went on, there’s been a noticeable difference.
"I think there is a reluctance to do so because shops may not want to feel they’re not being welcoming to members of the community, and perhaps Brexit has a part to play in that.”
Labour's shadow foreign secretary, Emily Thornberry, was sacked in 2014 for tweeting a picture of a family home draped in England flags
Her comments are likely to irritate the Labour leadership, who have been keen to promote the England team’s success during the tournament and had called for a bank holiday if they had gone on to win in the final.
Meanwhile, a study published by Winchester University appears to contradict Ms Allin-Khan’s claims, finding that, across all age groups and backgrounds, there had been as surge in people identifying “very strongly” as English.
Just one in 10 people surveyed by the researchers said they would be embarrassed to describe themselves as English.
It comes four years after Emily Thornberry, the then shadow attorney general, was sacked by Ed Miliband after she appeared to mock a family’s terrace home draped in England flags.
Mrs Thornberry's tweet led to an immediate backlash from the public and even members of her own party, who accused her of being "derogatory and dismissive” of people flying the national colours.
Ms Thornberry told The Telegraph at the time that she found the image, taken in Rochester, “remarkable” because she had never seen a house “completely covered in flags before”.
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Rosena Allin-Khan is Labour's shadow sports minister
- Harry Yorke, Political Correspondent
Labour’s shadow sports minister has suggested that the St George’s Cross has been tainted by Brexit and has become associated with “far-Right ideology”.
Rosena Allin-Khan has claimed that there was a “significant lack” of flags being flown during this summer’s World Cup, despite a recent survey finding that people’s pride in being English had risen on the back of the national team’s performance in Russia.
In an interview with The House magazine, Ms Khan said: “I think that many people feel that flying a St George’s cross is synonymous with far-Right ideology and that sometimes prevents them from doing so because they don’t want to be perceived as such.
“During previous World Cups between 2000-2010 you could walk 20 metres and see flags in windows, flags on cars, flags on shops.
“Despite more sprouting up as the tournament went on, there’s been a noticeable difference.
"I think there is a reluctance to do so because shops may not want to feel they’re not being welcoming to members of the community, and perhaps Brexit has a part to play in that.”
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Labour's shadow foreign secretary, Emily Thornberry, was sacked in 2014 for tweeting a picture of a family home draped in England flags
Her comments are likely to irritate the Labour leadership, who have been keen to promote the England team’s success during the tournament and had called for a bank holiday if they had gone on to win in the final.
Meanwhile, a study published by Winchester University appears to contradict Ms Allin-Khan’s claims, finding that, across all age groups and backgrounds, there had been as surge in people identifying “very strongly” as English.
Just one in 10 people surveyed by the researchers said they would be embarrassed to describe themselves as English.
It comes four years after Emily Thornberry, the then shadow attorney general, was sacked by Ed Miliband after she appeared to mock a family’s terrace home draped in England flags.
Mrs Thornberry's tweet led to an immediate backlash from the public and even members of her own party, who accused her of being "derogatory and dismissive” of people flying the national colours.
Ms Thornberry told The Telegraph at the time that she found the image, taken in Rochester, “remarkable” because she had never seen a house “completely covered in flags before”.
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What a load of old toad in the hole.
Upsets me that on St Patricks day every pub brings out the Irish flags yet on St Georges day (if it is allowed to be mentioned) So idiots say it's racists. Why cant these yoghurt knitting politically correct twats just let people get on with things? They actually make people more racist with this crap.
It was a rehearsal, Col. People know more about it now.
They certainly wouldn't vote for No Deal (and didn't last time).
Not so sure about that. The reality is very few people were sufficiently informed of the facts by both sides to know what the implications were. Choice was between Operation Fear where the risks were greatly exaggerated (Nothing new there that's what Tories do in every election) and tales of a battle between good and evil. You know who the evil empire were in that vision. The UK was the 'freedom fighter'. There was remarkably little coverage before the referendum about Article 50 and a 2 year period of negotiation.
I think you'll find that the vast majority on both sides thought they were going into a supermarket and proceeding to the check out once they'd made their choice.
Takes two to tango. Perhaps the UK does not know how to dance whereas the Japanese do. The Don, on the other hand. clearly thinks he invented dance
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the emir of qatar is in london on monday
will you all be joining willy at the demos
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Maastricht Treaty 1992: 50.7% against
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Maastricht Treaty 1993 (rerun): 56.7% for
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Nice Treaty 2001: 53.9% against
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Nice Treaty 2002 (rerun): 62.9% for
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Lisbon Treaty 2008: 53.2% against
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Lisbon Treaty 2009 (rerun): 67.1% forIf at first EU don't succeed...
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Being a drunk wasn't a problem for Churchill. He seemed to operate quite well when he had to. But, like all politicians, the time to step away inevitably comes. It's probably Junckers time to go. Not that it matters to us - we're leaving.
We’re a schizophrenic with one half of the brain telling us to do a tango and the other half the Macarena.
But it’s their fault, obviously. We’re organised and ready to crack on.
Heavens! I agree with Ellers on something...
Those of us who are English (and I include anyone born and raised in England, no matter what they look like, how they pray or what they wear) should be happy to identify as English. That includes celebrating St.Georges Day and recapturing the English flag from the far-right who have tried to steal it. I do think they've tried to make my countries flag their symbol and blur being English with being right wing. I resent that hugely.
The Union Flag is the flag of the UK (apart from the Welsh). It doesn't represent the country of England. It represents the state. We poor English don't even have our own parliament.