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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I agree because I think there is a majority in the UK, both voters and among Members of Parliament if allowed a completely free vote, for either remaining in the EU or just the single market, but neither the Tory or Labour leadership has or look likely to give us this.

That's because we voted to leave!
 
The more it’s discussed (not on here, but amongst our esteemed leadership) the more likely it is to happen. In today’s Times (pro Brexit at the time of the referendum I think, or was that The Sunday Times...one of them was) puts the chances of a referendum at 50%, and an election at 20%. Either will be too late to influence the negotiations, so in an odd way I’m with you. There is no point having an referendum including the Chequers Deal, because that has not been, and won’t be, agreed with the EU.

If they did have a referendum on the lines suggested my first choice would be in, and second properly out. The Chequers Deal is a horrible **** up of an idea, unworkable and the worst of all worlds. The true options are stay in, Norway style deal (ie Single Market), or out (meaning out of ALL EU institutions) followed by negotiation of a Canada/Japan type trade deal.

The Sunday Times was Leave. I think the Times was Remain. I don't read it anymore since it went Lib Dem
 
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No deal was the default position for leaving the EU. If we can get a deal (withdrawal and trade) with Brussels, so much the better for everyone. The UK can't do it on it's own, going forward. I doubt it will happen, because the Chequers deal is weak and the EU will try to weaken is substantially further

WTO most likely in my view, unless there's a big change of heart from across the Channel
 
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It's only a hundred years since honest ordinary British men charged across muddy fields to personal ruin at the behest of their leaders - in the belief their leaders knew best. Seems like Brexit is the same, to me. The leaders didn't, but they weren't the ones to suffer. Nothing’s changed, has it?
 
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How many people in the referendum voted to leave with no deal, Col?

The largest number of votes ever cast, nearly 17.5 million voted to leave.
Not to leave, but still have ties; still be dictated to by EU rules; still be influenced by the Euro judges; be in the customs union and the single market.
Leave!!
Be separated!
Be independent!

****ing leave!
 
When people know what Leave really means I don't think they'd vote for it. And I dont think they would vote Leave now.

Oh yes, I forgot. Everyone who voted leave was either thick, a racist, didn't understand the meaning of leaving or all three.
We voted to leave the EU. Cut ties and be independent.
We voted to leave.
I don't get the confusion.
 
The largest number of votes ever cast, nearly 17.5 million voted to leave.
Not to leave, but still have ties; still be dictated to by EU rules; still be influenced by the Euro judges; be in the customs union and the single market.
Leave!!
Be separated!
Be independent!

****ing leave!

There was no majority in favour of a no-deal Brexit. Do you support a United Ireland?
 
There was no majority in favour of a no-deal Brexit. Do you support a United Ireland?

We didn't vote on a deal, we voted to stay in or leave.
It's not beyond the wit of man to sort out the Irish border.
To answer your question, whatever the majority of people in Northern Ireland want, is what it should be.
 
It's only a hundred years since honest ordinary British men charged across muddy fields to personal ruin at the behest of their leaders - in the belief their leaders knew best. Seems like Brexit is the same, to me. The leaders didn't, but they weren't the ones to suffer. Nothing’s changed, has it?

Strange analogy.

The people chose to leave, not the leaders and metropolitan elite.
 
How many people in the referendum voted to leave with no deal, Col?
zzzzzzzzz This is like groundhog day!
I listened to Parliment today about exiting the EU. One MP said when Ireland voted No to the EU they had the same excuses being made that the people didn't know what they voted for. And got a second referendum. It really is insulting and why you dream of another referendum, I will be counting down the days to freedom.
 
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We didn't vote on a deal, we voted to stay in or leave.
It's not beyond the wit of man to sort out the Irish border.
To answer your question, whatever the majority of people in Northern Ireland want, is what it should be.

I think a united Ireland is one almost certain longer-term outcome of a no-deal Brexit. At least that would be one positive thing to come out of this sorry mess. Wouldn't say much for the Conservative & Unionist Party, though.
 
Oh yes, I forgot. Everyone who voted leave was either thick, a racist, didn't understand the meaning of leaving or all three.
We voted to leave the EU. Cut ties and be independent.
We voted to leave.
I don't get the confusion.
I would never accuse any of the first 2 Col but in all honesty I still don't understand the meaning of leaving. I didn't vote, I wished I had voted remain but that's just me. If i had voted leave then I would be a tad pissed off to be honest as it isntvwhats written on the tin.
 
Comrade Corbyn got a kicking in PMQ's. When they mentioned 'anti-semitic' Corbyn shrunk into his suit. Calls of "Shame Shame Shame" echoed through parliament.
 
I think a united Ireland is one almost certain longer-term outcome of a no-deal Brexit. At least that would be one positive thing to come out of this sorry mess. Wouldn't say much for the Conservative & Unionist Party, though.
I am glad you speak for all those people in NI. <doh> Becoming a joke now.