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See what happens when the EU won't be getting our money and they will have to bail out all the crap economies. Things will change then.
It's easy to knock our country at the moment. We have just pulled out of the EU and there's much uncertainty (most fuelled by certain sections who want to derail the process). However it saddens me that good news re Brexit is never accepted by the 'Remoaners' who seem to want it to fail so they can say "i told you so". People need to move on and stop crying about it.
As for France I have worked and lived there. If people think they are going to be some global leader then they better eat some more Nutella. TBH I surprised there were riots because most of the shops are shut while they have their 2 hour lunch breaks.
Plus of course the weekends that include Monday. I don’t use French builders on my gaff because guess what? I do it myself because I am clever
French people do not want to be leaders
1. You have your own Project Fear on the future of the EU then? Nice.
2. We haven’t pulled out of the EU, and won’t be until 2021. Thus there is no ‘good news’ about Brexit, because it hasn’t happened. What you post is ‘hey, it’s not as bad as expected’ stuff, and then get wound up when I point out that it’s not that great either. Continue, I’m enjoying it.
3. Yeah, you hate the French, we get it.
All irrelevant anyway, because according to our Defence Secretary the Russians are going to kill loads of us by turning off the leccy.
I don't get wound up, I voted 'leave' and we won the vote. happy with that.
I don't hate the French but when people seem to think they are the best thing since 'French bread' I just want to point out a few things.
I also don't hate Europe. I enjoy Europe and holidaying there. I just think the EU is a crap organization which will come tumbling down. Don't take my word for it just read news from the EU countries. Many people are P'd with it as it won't change.
Politics is a funny thing, a few weeks ago Merkel was the Leader of Europe you couldn't get a meeting with her, now she couldn't get a meeting with me. She is a lame as Gordon Brown was. So Macron is the new boy on the block, already the French are unhappy with him. Will he get 2 terms?
As for Russia I keep saying that they will be a problem. Whether we are in the EU or not we would always get drawn into something.
So think what you want Sb but i'm am looking forward to the day we leave.
From Goldie on the Inspirational thread, which I thought was better suited to here.
Surely it’s all about individual circumstances? The fact that single parent families are no longer stigmatised as much can only be good for the kids involved. Where parents are divorced, even acrimoniously, the courts should allow time with both parents, so both can be role models, unless there are compelling reasons why this should not happen. I am aware that sometimes one ex partner makes this extremely difficult, or that the bad blood between the adults makes it a nightmare for the kids, but that is selfish people rather than society.
What examples do you have of fathers being deliberately denied the chance to be good role models, when there is no reason to restrict them, other than from those blokes who dress up as batman? Not saying it doesn’t happen, but am willing to bet that most cases are about men and probably some women, who just don’t care.
However did you move that, Stan? Are you an undercover mod?
Single parent families should not be stigmatised in any way. The question is whether they should be encouraged, or perhaps, even discouraged for the sake of the children. It is children that are, after all, are of paramount importance, and parents come second. Some kids can lose a parent that dies early in their life, and that's a sad aspect of living. But I've always felt slightly uncomfortable in arrangements that deliberately set out to deprive a child of a second parent. And of course, its worse if a father wants to fulfil his role and is prevented from doing so by a vindictive partner after a divorce, as you have said.
In the case of single parent families, perhaps boys should be appointed a male role model by the state as a type of guardian ad litem. This might also apply to lesbian couples. I don't think this need be intrusive, and it may keep the boy from running into trouble when he comes into adolescence. Teachers can fulfil this role, but many boys fall through the net and the growing problems with gangs needs to be addressed.
Guess what, heard the BBC radio 4 News at 6.00, which kicked of with the growth figures. Even I thought the spin was relentlessly negative, began to piss me off.
Cut and paste plus a little gizmo on the site menu (under the + button) to put it in the box. No way could I mod, secretly or otherwise, the board would be very sparsely populated. You and Ellers would probably survive, I need people to bounce off. But the boring would be culled.However did you move that, Stan? Are you an undercover mod?
Single parent families should not be stigmatised in any way. The question is whether they should be encouraged, or perhaps, even discouraged for the sake of the children. It is children that are, after all, are of paramount importance, and parents come second. Some kids can lose a parent that dies early in their life, and that's a sad aspect of living. But I've always felt slightly uncomfortable in arrangements that deliberately set out to deprive a child of a second parent. And of course, its worse if a father wants to fulfil his role and is prevented from doing so by a vindictive partner after a divorce, as you have said.
In the case of single parent families, perhaps boys should be appointed a male role model by the state as a type of guardian ad litem. This might also apply to lesbian couples. I don't think this need be intrusive, and it may keep the boy from running into trouble when he comes into adolescence. Teachers can fulfil this role, but many boys fall through the net and the growing problems with gangs needs to be addressed.
It’s a very tricky area. I just don’t like the idea of the state interfering in families unless it’s legally necessary, if there is abuse (of whatever kind) involved. I’m pretty conflicted about it to be honest. Where do you find the blokes to be role models, what does it involve (how much time, training, background checks etc etc). We’re talking about a state which can’t even protect kids in care from predatory gangs.
I hold many consciously contradictory views about politics and society, but I’m pretty consistent in having low confidence in the state to effectively intervene in personal relationships.
Single parent families a big problem here in the States, not the divorced parents type but women who get pregnant by a man she never sees again. Its seems to happen in the black community more than others and is often cited as a cause of black crime.
Don’t know where to put this so it’s going on here. File it under law and order policy. Bloke out getting his fiance’s engagement ring tackles robber. I love the way he takes his jacket off and has a ‘ffs’ expression. Top top man.
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Jailed for 16 weeks and £115 fine? OK, robbing jewellers seems like a decent option.....Fake news people. The Trump press machine or rather DT himself are responsible for that. Anyway, what does he need the media to do that when he preens and praises and gives him full credit for everything that happens. He's slapped himself on the back and congratulated his image in the mirror for what he's done already. Which is precisely what? Given that it's taken him a year to actually get one of his election promises passed, I'm not sure how he or tbf any president, including Obama, can be credited with a turn around in fortunes for the US economy because of his policies and leadership. It's a bit like our Tone. The entrepreneurial genius who has been lucky enough in one gamble. Next thing you'll be telling me is that Clinton was a genius because the American economy boomed under his far-sighted leadership and wisdom gained from chasing the interns around the White House to sleep with him! Perhaps it was all down to Monica's pillow talk.Also....
Why can't the media give Donald Trumpton a bit of credit?
I just heard a story on US news that said the economy is doing really well in the US due to Trumptons work. Sky then mention the US economy and they say Trump cant take all the credit it was also Obama!
His corporate tax changes, encouraging companies to repatriate profit to the US, are going to spark an orgy of spending. One firm (can’t remember if it’s Apple or Google) will add $38bn to its cash fund. If this is spent expanding production in the US, creating jobs etc, Trump can certainly claim to have delivered. But a lot will be spent on takeovers and acquisitions at inflated prices, because everyone knows the system is cash rich. A few of us in my (US) company are very nervous that the board will splurge on things that we will really struggle to sell in the real world. But expect more boom times in the fantasy world of the stock markets before the inevitable ‘correction’ ie crash.
I stand corrected. Can't see him accepting blame if that happens during his presidency. Bound to be fake news, Hilary's fault or................Now that's a good game to play. So many possibilities for him to choose.
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I am not telling you anything I am just relaying what was said on the news. TBH if he turns the US fortunes around and does a good job certain sectors will not accept it simply because they don't like him.
There's a lot of people getting pay raises and bonuses here, he must be doing something right.
But that's my point. How much of that is down to him and his policies and how much due to the fact that economic fortunes are cyclical? I've asked what he has done and you respond by saying he must have done something right. Doesn't really answer the question does it?
His tax changes really have put more money in people’s pay packets. The already rich have benefitted most, and I understand that a lot of the cuts for the less well off are only temporary. Of course Trump won’t accept responsibility if it all goes tits up. But to be fair him the US corporate tax rates were very high indeed and certainly encouraged multinationals to keep their profits elsewhere. Though the same level of rates in Germany don’t seem to do much harm.
It reminds me of Nigel Lawson, who manufactured a boom which turned into a big bust to win short term approval. A disastrous chancellor who is never challenged on his record when he is lecturing us on the EU or climate change. To dodge the charge of anti Tory bias I think Ken Clarke was an excellent chancellor.