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I think the creepy bit (which you omit to mention) is that he refers to admiring a picture of her in a corset before inviting her for a drink.

There was a picture of her wearing a corset in The Times. If a woman I worked with, appeared wearing a corset in a national newspaper, I think I might mention it when next I saw her. What would you do, Strolls. Pretend it hadn't happened?!
 
This Damian Green thing is getting hysterically funny.

Either two retired policemen are lying and porn was not accessed for hours at a time from Green’s office, or Green is lying and he spent most of his time locked in his office ****ing, or for some reason he let someone else occupy his office and use his PC for days at a time, to allow them to **** in comfort presumably, with him nipping in to send the odd email.

The issue is whether Green is lying or not, rather than what he actually did (no problem with ****ing to porn, though doing it on the taxpayers time using taxpayer bought equipment is a bit problematic, and the sheer stupidity and sadness of spending your time at work, even if it wasn’t Green but one of his helpers, engaged in self gratification rather worrying). Given his dreadful performance at PMQs Green is clearly feeling the pressure, despite the strident defence that his mate Andrew Mitchell is conducting on his behalf.

Resignation inevitable I think. But the government may be gone by then anyway, punished by the DUP for attempting to get a workable solution to the Irish border.

If only there was some way that the poor man could de-stress... :)
 
There was a picture of her wearing a corset in The Times. If a woman I worked with, appeared wearing a corset in a national newspaper, I think I might mention it when next I saw her. What would you do, Strolls. Pretend it hadn't happened?!

It was an out-of-the-blue text, Goldie, not an everyday encounter.....

having admired you in a corset in my favourite tabloid, I feel impelled to ask if you are free for a drink anytime?
 
It was an out-of-the-blue text, Goldie, not an everyday encounter.....

having admired you in a corset in my favourite tabloid, I feel impelled to ask if you are free for a drink anytime?

But if a minister or an MP is looking for a bit on the side, should he be sacked for immorality? I thought we'd left all that Victorian stuff behind. I can't see Green was using a powerful position to force her to do something she didn't want to do. There may have been a politely worded invitation (he was a friend of her family), but that's hardly Harvey Weinstein bullying
 
But if a minister or an MP is looking for a bit on the side, should he be sacked for immorality? I thought we'd left all that Victorian stuff behind. I can't see Green was using a powerful position to force her to do something she didn't want to do. There may have been a politely worded invitation (he was a friend of her family), but that's hardly Harvey Weinstein bullying

To be honest, I couldn't care much about the porn or the sad-old-man sexual advances, but the lying does bother me. The best reason to sack Green, though, is that Davis has threatened to resign. That might do us all a favour.

Jess Phillips has been rather scathing...

“David Davis. Don’t let the door hit you on the arse on your way out.

“David Davis your red line, your hill to die on is really something. ‘What made you want to become an MP’… ‘Great question, I really wanted to fight hard so people can **** at work,” she added.
 
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To be honest, I couldn't care much about the porn or the sad-old-man sexual advances, but the lying does bother me. The best reason to sack Green, though, is that Davis has threatened to resign. That might do us all a favour.

Jess Phillips has been rather scathing...

“David Davis. Don’t let the door hit you on the arse on your way out.

“David Davis your red line, your hill to die on is really something. ‘What made you want to become an MP’… ‘Great question, I really wanted to fight hard so people can **** at work,” she added.
I’m warming to Jess Phillips.
 
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While I have no time at all for Morgan Stanley and their ilk, Corbyn’s attack comes straight after Morgan Stanley issued a report that said the U.K. economy would tank under a Corbyn Government, so its a bit of afters. The real problem is that Morgan Stanley can make the tanking happen.

Dark glasses at night and shouting to make your point? Not calculated to make me listen after the first ten seconds I’m afraid.
 
To be honest, I couldn't care much about the porn or the sad-old-man sexual advances, but the lying does bother me. The best reason to sack Green, though, is that Davis has threatened to resign. That might do us all a favour.

Jess Phillips has been rather scathing...

“David Davis. Don’t let the door hit you on the arse on your way out.

“David Davis your red line, your hill to die on is really something. ‘What made you want to become an MP’… ‘Great question, I really wanted to fight hard so people can **** at work,” she added.

Well, yes, I'm sure there are lots of ulterior motives about all of this. Did Jess Phillips really make that second quotation? Shameful if she did. Nothing has been established, so to prejudge is unparliamentary conduct at the least. May be defamatory, if the inquiry finds in Green's favour
 
Well, yes, I'm sure there are lots of ulterior motives about all of this. Did Jess Phillips really make that second quotation? Shameful if she did. Nothing has been established, so to prejudge is unparliamentary conduct at the least. May be defamatory, if the inquiry finds in Green's favour
? She didn’t say that it was Damian ****ing at work, more like that Davis’ threat to flounce out again seemed to be about preserving the right for MPs to **** at work, because he hates the idea of the police being able to seize MPs computers, even when they are illegally receiving confidential information as Green was when this happened. The civil servant sending it to him was sacked.

You are taking this very seriously Goldie.
 
? She didn’t say that it was Damian ****ing at work, more like that Davis’ threat to flounce out again seemed to be about preserving the right for MPs to **** at work, because he hates the idea of the police being able to seize MPs computers, even when they are illegally receiving confidential information as Green was when this happened. The civil servant sending it to him was sacked.

You are taking this very seriously Goldie.

Justice is a serious matter, Stan. Phillips did not need to mention Green by name. Innuendo has long been recognised as affording a defamed party a cause of action.

The more I look at Green's conduct, the more I think it's not a hanging offence, without more. Corbyn, Phillips and Co will use all in their power to disparage him and get another Tory minister scalp, but apart from anything else, there are important precedents at stake here. Add the Labour Governments decision that Tory offices should be raided, the police's agreement to take a less than independent approach and to exceed the scope of the search, and later, certain retired coppers to use confidential information for what looks like it could be malicious purposes - and you have a very complicated situation
 
Justice is a serious matter, Stan. Phillips did not need to mention Green by name. Innuendo has long been recognised as affording a defamed party a cause of action.

The more I look at Green's conduct, the more I think it's not a hanging offence, without more. Corbyn, Phillips and Co will use all in their power to disparage him and get another Tory minister scalp, but apart from anything else, there are important precedents at stake here. Add the Labour Governments decision that Tory offices should be raided, the police's agreement to take a less than independent approach and to exceed the scope of the search, and later, certain retired coppers to use confidential information for what looks like it could be malicious purposes - and you have a very complicated situation
I still think the key question is whether the electors of wherever he is MP want to be represented by a bloke who ****s at work and then lies about it. Allegedly.
 
I still think the key question is whether the electors of wherever he is MP want to be represented by a bloke who ****s at work and then lies about it. Allegedly.

Taking what you say literally, I should think it would be almost impossible for him to masturbate at his desk, given that all kinds of parliamentary colleagues and aides are coming in and out of his office like tourists at Harrod's sale. More likely surreptitious downloading of what Jacob R-M refers to as dirty photos (because the women aren't wearing many clothes, the brazen hussies). As I've said, most men would deny it if confronted...but if you'd like to own up to anything, Stan, now's your opportunity...!
 
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I still think the key question is whether the electors of wherever he is MP want to be represented by a bloke who ****s at work and then lies about it. Allegedly.

Speaking from experience, people don't seem to like it when you **** at work and then announce it.
 
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Taking what you say literally, I should think it would be almost impossible for him to masturbate at his desk, given that all kinds of parliamentary colleagues and aides are coming in and out of his office like tourists at Harrod's sale. More likely surreptitious downloading of what Jacob R-M refers to as dirty photos (because the women aren't wearing many clothes, the brazen hussies). As I've said, most men would deny it if confronted...but if you'd like to own up to anything, Stan, now's your opportunity...!
I’ll bow to your apparent expertise in the area of office ****ing Goldie.
 
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This could be fake news, fake accusation or fake denial. What it certainly should not be is front page news or 30 minutes of the Today Program discussing it. There are more important things going on in the real world. Frankly I'm not even that bothered if it's true and he did lie about it. Few of us would be brave enough or rather calm enough to admit it openly and face the ridicule, sniggering and being the butt of all jokes. Move on.
 
This could be fake news, fake accusation or fake denial. What it certainly should not be is front page news or 30 minutes of the Today Program discussing it. There are more important things going on in the real world. Frankly I'm not even that bothered if it's true and he did lie about it. Few of us would be brave enough or rather calm enough to admit it openly and face the ridicule, sniggering and being the butt of all jokes. Move on.

It’s ****ing weird and that catches people’s attention. ****ing weird middle-aged man work ****er.
 
It’s ****ing weird and that catches people’s attention. ****ing weird middle-aged man work ****er.
agree it's not the first time a politician has been caught tied up wearing a Larry the Lamb outfit with an apple in his mouth. I thought that was the norm for MP's