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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Staines R's said:
In other news......and sorry to be self indulgent....but I got my job !!
So as long as I pass a driving assessment next week and medical/criminal record/previous employment checks...as of the 15th January I will be a a Trainee Emergency Ambulance Crew member for London Ambulance Service....entailing 22 weeks of solid study, weekly testing and blue light driving.
Dunno if I’m gonna pass or not but I’m gonna give it my best shot.
To say I’m happy is a massive understatement :)
(Sorry to put it on this thread but a few on here wished me luck earlier in the week)
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Great news Staines, the big test will come when you have to resuscitate a Chelsea supporter, the temptation to turn up the voltage may be irresisitable...:grin:
 
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The dilemma the David Davis finds himself made stark today. Last night talking to German businessmen he begged the EU to put prosperity above politics, in other words ignore the example set by the U.K. He also said that the U.K. would remain subject to ECJ rulings during the transition period.

This morning he says at the start of the transition period we would be under the ECJ, but under a ‘different arbitration’ system by the end, obviously to keep Jake Rees Mogg and his band of loathsome spotted reptiles on board-ish.

When asked what is more difficult, negotiating with the EU or negotiating with the Conservative Party he giggled manically and didn’t answer the question.
 
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sb_73 said:
The dilemma the David Davis finds himself made stark today. Last night talking to German businessmen he begged the EU to put prosperity above politics, in other words ignore the example set by the U.K. He also said that the U.K. would remain subject to ECJ rulings during the transition period.

This morning he says at the start of the transition period we would be under the ECJ, but under a ‘different arbitration’ system by the end, obviously to keep Jake Rees Mogg and his band of loathsome spotted reptiles on board-ish.

When asked what is more difficult, negotiating with the EU or negotiating with the Conservative Party he giggled manically and didn’t answer the question.
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The next step is to tell them to **** off.
 
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Ipsos Mori has conducted a poll on how trusted various news outlets are, with the BBC coming out top and The Sun at the bottom.

Quite reassuring, I think.

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GOOD NEWS!

Really! Report in the Times today says that:
People born before 1925 had an 8% chance of getting age related macular degeneration, which sends you blind. This falls to just 1% for those of us baby boomers born between 1946 and 1964, and will be even lower for youngsters.
Deaths from heart disease are 50% of what they were a generation ago
Although numbers of people with dementia are in increasing, that is because of the ageing population and chances of any individual getting it have fallen by 20% in 20 years.
Cases of Meningitis B have halved since a vaccine was made available in 2015
A woman’s lifetime risk of getting cervical cancer has fallen from 2.2% in the 1970s to 0.8% now, and will be just 0.2% for those who have been given the HPV vaccine.

Better living standards, large scale public health initiatives and medical science work! Sadly we will all eventually die of something or other but seems my chances of living long enough (say another 250 years) to see QPR win the Premier League are slightly improving. I am particularly confident of avoiding cervical cancer.
 
Further health news, Scotland leading the way in attempting to cut down binge-drinking culture, and stop all the jakeys on our streets buying cheap gut-rot booze.....

Scotland is set to become the first country in the world with a minimum price for alcohol sales after the UK’s highest court rejected an appeal from Scotch whisky manufacturers.

Supreme Court justices unanimously dismissed the appeal brought by the Scotch Whisky Association (SWA) and other drinks manufacturers, who argued that the policy was “disproportionate” and illegal under European law.

It brings to a close a five-year legal struggle over the ScottishGovernment’s plan to introduce a 50p minimum unit price (MUP) for alcohol, in a bid to curb harmful drinking of cheap, super strong alcohol.

The judgment, handed down by justice Lord Mance, said that increasing alcohol price by an excise duty or VAT increase would not be “equally effective” at targeting cheap alcohol.
 
Steelmonkey said:
Further health news, Scotland leading the way in attempting to cut down binge-drinking culture, and stop all the jakeys on our streets buying cheap gut-rot booze.....

Scotland is set to become the first country in the world with a minimum price for alcohol sales after the UK’s highest court rejected an appeal from Scotch whisky manufacturers.

Supreme Court justices unanimously dismissed the appeal brought by the Scotch Whisky Association (SWA) and other drinks manufacturers, who argued that the policy was “disproportionate” and illegal under European law.

It brings to a close a five-year legal struggle over the ScottishGovernment’s plan to introduce a 50p minimum unit price (MUP) for alcohol, in a bid to curb harmful drinking of cheap, super strong alcohol.

The judgment, handed down by justice Lord Mance, said that increasing alcohol price by an excise duty or VAT increase would not be “equally effective” at targeting cheap alcohol.
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Nice intention maybe but I think it’s more wanting to be seen to be doing something. Dumb idea in practice IMO.

- Penalises people who aren’t problem drinkers
- Essentially a poor tax as it will raise the price of the cheapest booze. A litre of 40% will be minimum £20 when it’s £15/£16 now.
- Potential to make those already turning to crime to fund a habit worse.
 
West WindsR said:
Nice intention maybe but I think it’s more wanting to be seen to be doing something. Dumb idea in practice IMO.

- Penalises people who aren’t problem drinkers
- Essentially a poor tax as it will raise the price of the cheapest booze. A litre of 40% will be minimum £20 when it’s £15/£16 now.
- Potential to make those already turning to crime to fund a habit worse.
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Though the price rise that stood out for me was from £4 something to £11 something for a three litre plastic bottle of cider. I don’t think many social drinkers are buying those.

Is the price rise tax or do the producer/ retailer keep it?
 
sb_73 said:
Though the price rise that stood out for me was from £4 something to £11 something for a three litre plastic bottle of cider. I don’t think many social drinkers are buying those.

Is the price rise tax or do the producer/ retailer keep it?
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Just a rough calculation but a 3L bottle of 5.5% would have duty of £4.70 and they'd have to pay VAT too so it would be at least £6 and the retailer would still be making a loss.

Retailer will keep this.
 
West WindsR said:
Nice intention maybe but I think it’s more wanting to be seen to be doing something. Dumb idea in practice IMO.

- Penalises people who aren’t problem drinkers
- Essentially a poor tax as it will raise the price of the cheapest booze. A litre of 40% will be minimum £20 when it’s £15/£16 now.
- Potential to make those already turning to crime to fund a habit worse.
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For some people a litre is a unit.
 
sb_73 said:
Though the price rise that stood out for me was from £4 something to £11 something for a three litre plastic bottle of cider. I don’t think many social drinkers are buying those.

Is the price rise tax or do the producer/ retailer keep it?
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The shocker for me was you can buy a 4 pack of beer for £1, and it's going to go up to £4 - must be rank, total jakey-juice!! <laugh>
 
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rangercol said:
I am so sick to death of hearing the EU laying down the law to the UK.

I can't wait to be free of them!!

I'll await the incoming with my tin hat firmly in place.

Knock yourselves out!
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****ing hell Col, I’m valiantly trying to change the subject, and yet you drag it back......

Going tomorrow?
 
rangercol said:
I am so sick to death of hearing the EU laying down the law to the UK.

I can't wait to be free of them!!

I'll await the incoming with my tin hat firmly in place.

Knock yourselves out!
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It’s was because the UK is still a part of the union and the EU rules over the Union .. but some British people got sick of their own failings so decided to blame someone else. So here we are
 
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