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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
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Tramore Ranger said:
Not sure if I should post this on here or the London Bridge Attack thread as it's fairly relevant to both.....

As we've had rammed down our throats for the last few days resources are an issue for both the Police and Security Services as opined by Labour, Lib Democrats, Greens, SNP in fact by everyone in the opposition parties, however on RTE radio last evening they were talking to some Dr who lectures in Security issues at University College London and they asked him to break down the resources required to keep 1 suspect under surveillance for 24 hours and his answer was 20 people.......

So we know that at present there are 20000 odd suspects of interest of which 3000 odd are of significant interest and 300 or so are of high interest to the Security Services. To keep the 300 under 24 hour surveillance requires 6000 security personnel, 3000 requires 60000 security personnel and to keep the 20000 under surveillance would require 400000 security personnel, I'm not sure an extra 5p on the tax rate on the top earning 5% in the country would fund these sort of resources.

Just something to think about when listening to those spouting about lack of resources.......
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Easily paid for if we scrap Trident.
 
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Tramore Ranger said:
Not sure if I should post this on here or the London Bridge Attack thread as it's fairly relevant to both.....

As we've had rammed down our throats for the last few days resources are an issue for both the Police and Security Services as opined by Labour, Lib Democrats, Greens, SNP in fact by everyone in the opposition parties, however on RTE radio last evening they were talking to some Dr who lectures in Security issues at University College London and they asked him to break down the resources required to keep 1 suspect under surveillance for 24 hours and his answer was 20 people.......

So we know that at present there are 20000 odd suspects of interest of which 3000 odd are of significant interest and 300 or so are of high interest to the Security Services. To keep the 300 under 24 hour surveillance requires 6000 security personnel, 3000 requires 60000 security personnel and to keep the 20000 under surveillance would require 400000 security personnel, I'm not sure an extra 5p on the tax rate on the top earning 5% in the country would fund these sort of resources.

Just something to think about when listening to those spouting about lack of resources.......
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Might as well not bother tracking any of them if it clears the deficit quicker eh Trams?
 
rangercol said:
Yep. As long as there's evidence.
See my post on the terrorism thread. As long as liberal PC attitudes prevail we're ****ed.
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How much evidence? How long do we keep them inside? What happens when they are let out - or do we keep them inside forever? If not, we have to monitor them constantly when they are released. Why not just do that now? Never mind liberal attitudes for a minute, it just doesn't make sense.

Monitor all of them now, 24/7, all three thousand of those that are considered a potential threat. If it takes 20 operatives to monitor one suspect and that each costs, say, £50k pa all in, that's £3 billion per annum. Not so much, really - 1p on income tax raises £4-5 billion.
 
The two pictures above sum it up for me. The country is ****ed. One party is said to be too liberal/soft. The other party is in bloody bed with the thing we fight against. Nobody should be allowed to vote until the terror funding inquiry is published oh silly me the Tories have misplaced it.
 
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Trumps team say "The President is not a liar" after the sacked Director of the FBI calls him one in front of the Senate Committee.

"I am not a crook" R Nixon 1973.
 
Hundreds of first-time voters - with polling cards - turned away from polling stations in Newcastle-Under-Lyme because they were 'not on the register'. Turns out the officers had an out-of-date register.
 
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Stroller said:
Hundreds of first-time voters - with polling cards - turned away from polling stations in Newcastle-Under-Lyme because they were 'not on the register'. Turns out the officers had an out-of-date register.
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Convenient thing to happen in a seat where Labour won very narrowly in 2015 and the UKIP candidate isn't running this time.
 
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Convenient thing to happen in a seat where Labour won very narrowly in 2015 and the UKIP candidate isn't running this time.
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......and where nearly all of those turned away were likely Labour voters. Apparently the advice is that they should go back to the polling station and ask to speak to the presiding officer. How many of those turned away will never actually get to vote? The result here will be of great interest.
 
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