Off Topic The Politics Thread

[rangercol]

I think there will be a pause in hostilities because of the shock - I know I am shocked and not my normal combative self.

Corbyn will suffer because he really struggles to condemn anything beyond generic 'violence' (which I am sure is genuinely sincere) he won't get specific on the perpetrators, and even if he doesn't voice it you know he feels that these atrocities are linked to current and distant past British foreign policy. It's an opinion, but not one that adds lustre to a bid to be leader of the country. I know that I can come across less than patriotic on occasion, but I'm not trying to be elected to run the country ( though if you ask nicely I'll give it a go......). Corbyn thinks he can understand what these ****ers want and negotiate with them, he has no concept that what they want is our utter destruction.

Besides this 'reaction to injustice' argument is bullshit. From day one Islam has been an aggressive, empire/caliphate building creed. The Tibetan Buddhists have seen their country occupied for 50 years, you don't see them blowing themselves and others up in every country that refuses to call out China (Buddhists have their own share of bad behaviour though).

Did anyone else listen to the Radio 4 lunchtime news? It finished with them playing a bit of Atmosphere by Joy Division on the grounds that they were a Manchester band. It freaked me out a bit.

Great post.

 

[Stroller]

Why can't Corbyn appear statesmanlike then?

Do you not believe all the quotes attributed to him regarding the IRA? Do you think all the photos are fakes? Did the fact that Diane Abbott try to get MI5 banned not actually happen?

Let's just say it's not Corbyn's safest ground. What's that about Abbott?

 

[rangercol]

Let's just say it's not Corbyn's safest ground. What's that about Abbott?

She backed an early day motion in the commons in 1989 calling for the abolition of "Special Branch" and "MI5", calling them "conspiratorial" and "not accountable to the British people". She now wants to be our next Home Secretary!!

 

[Stroller]

She backed an early day motion in the commons in 1989 calling for the abolition of "Special Branch" and "MI5", calling them "conspiratorial" and "not accountable to the British people". She now wants to be our next Home Secretary!!

She's an idiot.

 

[Wherever]

She backed an early day motion in the commons in 1989 calling for the abolition of "Special Branch" and "MI5", calling them "conspiratorial" and "not accountable to the British people". She now wants to be our next Home Secretary!!

If true and not questioning, that's incredible but believable

 

[rangercol]

If true and not questioning, that's incredible but believable

Pretty well documented I believe.

 

[sb_73]

Pretty well documented I believe.

I should imagine that Corbyn and Abbott would have pretty thick files on them in M15. Mainly for the giggles I'd guess, these people couldn't shoot a dead dog in a box without ending up in A&E.

This will **** up my voting intentions again. I had been suppressing my distaste of the foreign policy side of Corbynism, and handily forgetting that these are people who, while not necessarily supporting terror, hung around with terrorists, because their warped sense of justice led them there.

 

[Stroller]

In what way will this effect the election do you think?

This will **** up my voting intentions again. .

QED

 

[sb_73]

QED

Spooky isn't it? As far as I know Corbyn has only said the usual on the Manchester bombing, nothing outrageous or stupid, yet I am suffering voting angst precisely because of what I think he thinks.

I'll never get over that one brief face to face I had with him in the Queens in Crouch End in 1983.

 

[Stroller]

Spooky isn't it? As far as I know Corbyn has only said the usual on the Manchester bombing, nothing outrageous or stupid, yet I am suffering voting angst precisely because of what I think he thinks.

I'll never get over that one brief face to face I had with him in the Queens in Crouch End in 1983.

The terrorist sympathiser bit really doesn't bother me. I supported the goals of the IRA in the seventies, whilst rejecting their methods. I still believe in a united Ireland. Corbyn is far from perfect as a Labour leader (and Abbott is a moron), but he has rescued the Labour party by demonstrating that left-of-centre policies are popular. Leftism still has a place and can win. The Blairites would have killed the party.

 

[Wherever]

Already voted, crossed the whole ballet paper out, nobody worth my vote

 

[sheffordqpr]

In light of the recent events in Manchester and, in April ,London, I posted a message on the RIP thread expressing my sadness. Rather than the RIP thread being all to innocently and understandably turned into a terrorism article, I thought it best to start a new conversation.

Does anyone understand what get's into these people's heads that makes it OK for them to take innocent children's lives? I have to say it is beyond me.

 

[UTRs]

Quite simply mental illness, that's the only sort of logical theory I can think of?

Completely baffling stuff!

 

[Wherever]

Or freedom fighters, who is writing history

 

[durbar2003]

In light of the recent events in Manchester and, in April ,London, I posted a message on the RIP thread expressing my sadness. Rather than the RIP thread being all to innocently and understandably turned into a terrorism article, I thought it best to start a new conversation.

Does anyone understand what get's into these people's heads that makes it OK for them to take innocent children's lives? I have to say it is beyond me.

They want to create terror, that's why they're called Terrorists. People have been doing it for centuries.

 

[QPR999]

For the first time in 10 years the terror threat level has been raised from severe to critical. This move indicates that another attack could be "imminent", as well as "highly likely". Operation Tempura has been implemented which means that Armed Forces will be deployed across the country under the command of the police. Worrying times indeed.

 

[UTRs]

Call me a pessimist if you like, but sadly I just can't see an end to this and feel it's going to become more regular.

Pure evil!

 

[Staines R's]

For the first time in 10 years the terror threat level has been raised from severe to critical. This move indicates that another attack could be "imminent", as well as "highly likely". Operation Tempura has been implemented which means that Armed Forces will be deployed across the country under the command of the police. Worrying times indeed.

I'm off to see Hawkwind at the Roundhouse on Friday night.....can't say I'm anymore worried than I would normally be (which is pretty much not at all).
If I'm at the wrong place at the wrong time then there isn't a thing I can do about it, and to be honest it's highly unlikely...you can't let those scumbag ****s ruin your life

 

[QPR999]

I'm off to see Hawkwind at the Roundhouse on Friday night.....can't say I'm anymore worried than I would normally be (which is pretty much not at all).
If I'm at the wrong place at the wrong time then there isn't a thing I can do about it, and to be honest it's highly unlikely...you can't let those scumbag ****s ruin your life

Quite right too. Have a great night mate, I think I've been spared the Ariana Grande experience as I believe her European tour has now been cancelled.

 

[QPR999]

Btw 'The Roundhouse' is a great venue. Sitting or standing?