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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I think this is a big gamble by May. The polls are always wrong these days and I predict a huge anti-brexit movement on social media, voting tactically to try to either soften brexit or reverse it in some way. The big winners will be the Lib Dems with their ultra religious, anti gay leader. They will pick up an awful lot of the anti-brexit voters.
People are going to have a huge problem deciding who to vote for. Labour voters who voted leave will find it hard to bite the bullet and vote Tory, but it is the sensible thing to do if one wants brexit safeguarded.
Personally, if brexit hadn't happened I would have a problem, as I'm not sure I would want to vote Tory, as there's a fair bit I disagree with that this government is doing. I couldn't ever vote for Corbyn or Farron, so I'd be scratching around looking for an independent or something.
As it is, a Tory vote is a brexit vote so that's what I'll do.

This is a re-run of the referendum - could be close!!
 
I think this is a big gamble by May. The polls are always wrong these days and I predict a huge anti-brexit movement on social media, voting tactically to try to either soften brexit or reverse it in some way. The big winners will be the Lib Dems with their ultra religious, anti gay leader. They will pick up an awful lot of the anti-brexit voters.
People are going to have a huge problem deciding who to vote for. Labour voters who voted leave will find it hard to bite the bullet and vote Tory, but it is the sensible thing to do if one wants brexit safeguarded.
Personally, if brexit hadn't happened I would have a problem, as I'm not sure I would want to vote Tory, as there's a fair bit I disagree with that this government is doing. I couldn't ever vote for Corbyn or Farron, so I'd be scratching around looking for an independent or something.
As it is, a Tory vote is a brexit vote so that's what I'll do.

This is a re-run of the referendum - could be close!!

Cant see this being close Some papers are saying it could be a 140 majority.
 
Politics at its most predictable and utterly boring. Master stroke by May but it will be fascinating to see how many U-turns there will be as everyone morphs to the position they think the electorate will support. The only fixed points of principle so far as I can see are that Lib Dems will stand for EU /reversal of Brexit, SNP will stand for Scottish independence, Labour will stand for a red-blooded socialist agenda which is completely unelectable, UKIP will try to con everyone that only Nuttall can deliver Brexit and May will run on the platform that only she can be trusted to deliver strong government and will try to wear the clothes of every cause going if it will get her votes. I sympathise with those that have lost the will to live as the only true fact is that they will all lie.


Is it possible to reverse Brexit now that article 50 has been triggered? I'm genuinely not sure, although I suspect it can't be,
 
This is a re-run of the referendum - could be close!!

It won't Col. All Tories will support the party. Brexit voters will support the Tories. Labour are a joke with 'Comic Corbyn" and the Lib Dems are as wet as water.
Massive Tory win.
 
I think this is a big gamble by May. The polls are always wrong these days and I predict a huge anti-brexit movement on social media, voting tactically to try to either soften brexit or reverse it in some way. The big winners will be the Lib Dems with their ultra religious, anti gay leader. They will pick up an awful lot of the anti-brexit voters.
People are going to have a huge problem deciding who to vote for. Labour voters who voted leave will find it hard to bite the bullet and vote Tory, but it is the sensible thing to do if one wants brexit safeguarded.
Personally, if brexit hadn't happened I would have a problem, as I'm not sure I would want to vote Tory, as there's a fair bit I disagree with that this government is doing. I couldn't ever vote for Corbyn or Farron, so I'd be scratching around looking for an independent or something.
As it is, a Tory vote is a brexit vote so that's what I'll do.

This is a re-run of the referendum - could be close!!

I too think it will be closer than the polls are saying. The Lib Dems could gain 30 seats as the anti-Hard Brexit party and Corbyn could well appeal to younger voters as the anti-establishment choice. There will be a lot of tactical voting too. May will almost certainly get a majority, but I don't think it will be anything like the landslide that recent polls suggest.
 
I too think it will be closer than the polls are saying. The Lib Dems could gain 30 seats as the anti-Hard Brexit party and Corbyn could well appeal to younger voters as the anti-establishment choice. There will be a lot of tactical voting too. May will almost certainly get a majority, but I don't think it will be anything like the landslide that recent polls suggest.


Nope, me neither. I think she'll probably increase her majority, but, with it being a referendum re-run, I think it will be much closer than is being suggested.
 
Nope, me neither. I think she'll probably increase her majority, but, with it being a referendum re-run, I think it will be much closer than is being suggested.

The thing is, it's a referendum re-run for the Lib Dems (or at least a vote on what kind of Brexit we want) and they will make gains on that basis. Corbyn will campaign on anti-establishment, anti-austerity and this will have more appeal than some might expect. Plus of course the CPS might take a hand. I predict a 30-40 majority for the Tories.
 
The thing is, it's a referendum re-run for the Lib Dems (or at least a vote on what kind of Brexit we want) and they will make gains on that basis. Corbyn will campaign on anti-establishment, anti-austerity and this will have more appeal than some might expect. Plus of course the CPS might take a hand. I predict a 30-40 majority for the Tories.


Which I suppose will justify the election, as May will have her mandate.
 
The thing is, it's a referendum re-run for the Lib Dems (or at least a vote on what kind of Brexit we want) and they will make gains on that basis. Corbyn will campaign on anti-establishment, anti-austerity and this will have more appeal than some might expect. Plus of course the CPS might take a hand. I predict a 30-40 majority for the Tories.
I think the Lib Dems will get loads more votes but not many more seats.
Which I suppose will justify the election, as May will have her mandate.
Totally right. And I suspect her mandate will allow her to go for a softer Brexit too.
 
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Which I suppose will justify the election, as May will have her mandate.

Well if that really were to be the result, she would at least have been elected to her position. It would hardly be a triumph, though. She ought to get at least an 80-seat majority to justify going back on her word.
 
Is it possible to reverse Brexit now that article 50 has been triggered? I'm genuinely not sure, although I suspect it can't be,
I read some journalist opinion that a cancellation of the triggering of article 50 could be made until some formal agreement is made.
 
Is it possible to reverse Brexit now that article 50 has been triggered? I'm genuinely not sure, although I suspect it can't be,
It's new ground for everyone Col. I suspect that if the British government were to say we've changed our minds the EU would make a show of being pissed off because of all the hassle that has happened but actually be delighted. But there would be no way we could even get the concessions that Cameron negotiated, and our influence would be massively reduced. I would have liked us to stay in but not passively, work with other nations to improve the whole thing. That chance has gone.
 
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