Off Topic The Politics Thread

[colognehornet]

Have a look at the stuff that people like Willsman who is a close mate of Corbyn are coming out with. Even Tom Watson said it disgusts him. It's racist and nobody can rationally defend it, Cologne

As far as I know Willsman said something which compared Israel to the Nazis - is that racist ? It happens often that this or that state is given such an unfortunate comparison, but apparently Israel is immune from this. It may have been an idiotic comment, but I cannot see it as racist. The political system has this in common with the Nazis, namely that they see the nation state as an organic/racial/biological concept which nobody else can be a part of.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

As far as I know Willsman said something which compared Israel to the Nazis - is that racist ? It happens often that this or that state is given such an unfortunate comparison, but apparently Israel is immune from this. It may have been an idiotic comment, but I cannot see it as racist. The political system has this in common with the Nazis, namely that they see the nation state as an organic/racial/biological concept which nobody else can be a part of.

I think it’s possible to innocently compare the two but the vast majority of the time people know what they’re doing.

 

[DT’s Socks]

Agree mate and I heard the same. Some of the smaller countries rely heavily on trade with us and will kick off if the big two start playing games. We all know how many cars we buy from Germany and Wine from France. When they realise what it will actually mean to them they will back down. Those French farmers will be crying in their grapes and the only reason our lorries will be held up will be because of those farmers demonstrating. We all know the French will strike over anything.
It's just sad we have a weak PM and seem to have blown our negotiation hand. Look what Trump did to the EU? They bottled out and went running to the White House. We should have done the same.

While you are over in France ask people what they think of the U.K. and if you find anyone that can’t stop laughing about our political record ask them what we should do

 

[ELLERS]

French Wine it can be flown in as it is now
French Cars and Trucks our number German cars. Plus France owns Vauxhall now

Once again you don't make sense. If there is a no deal we won't get wine from France and cars from Germany. In fact the Japanese cars are really good. We have already made a post-Brexit deal with them opps I shouldn't have said that as it's not common knowledge. Dodgy Aussie wine is on the way and don't forget that dodgy chicken from the US.

 

[kiwiqpr]

You are not making sense DT.
We won't need the tunnel if it's a no deal as according to some we won't get food or medicines from the EU. There will be a lot of French workers out of work as well.

seal the ****er up

the tunnel not dt

 

[DT’s Socks]

You are not making sense DT.
We won't need the tunnel if it's a no deal as according to some we won't get food or medicines from the EU. There will be a lot of French workers out of work as well.

Agreed not worried about the French the EU will look after them but my kids will be hungry and I need my eye medication

 

[ELLERS]

While you are over in France ask people what they think of the U.K. and if you find anyone that can’t stop laughing about our political record ask them what we should do

They laugh at our political record? When I am in France I visit sites where brave British soldiers gave their lives so they could be free from Germans.

 

[ELLERS]

seal the ****er up

the tunnel not dt

Last time I used it I was delayed for 2 hours because migrants wanted to escape from France and get to the UK.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Agree mate and I heard the same. Some of the smaller countries rely heavily on trade with us and will kick off if the big two start playing games. We all know how many cars we buy from Germany and Wine from France. When they realise what it will actually mean to them they will back down. Those French farmers will be crying in their grapes and the only reason our lorries will be held up will be because of those farmers demonstrating. We all know the French will strike over anything.
It's just sad we have a weak PM and seem to have blown our negotiation hand. Look what Trump did to the EU? They bottled out and went running to the White House. We should have done the same.

Yes, agree. Poor negotiations makes it more difficult for May, Hunt etc to convince the EU we're not going to fold again now. But May can't afford to, or she's toast

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Last time I used it I was delayed for 2 hours because migrants wanted to escape from France and get to the UK.

Anything to escape the poor WiFi.

 

[DT’s Socks]

Once again you don't make sense. If there is a no deal we won't get wine from France and cars from Germany. In fact the Japanese cars are really good. We have already made a post-Brexit deal with them opps I shouldn't have said that as it's not common knowledge. Dodgy Aussie wine is on the way and don't forget that dodgy chicken from the US.

Japanese cars are on the whole rubbish they bring out a new model each month plus they look crap. We can buy French cars from Luton as they shown us how to make them properly and they are actually making a profit

English people today are useless engineers
They think they have skills but generally that is a thing of the past

 

[ELLERS]

Anything to escape the poor WiFi.

Actually I can't moan today as it is pretty good although I keep getting this stupid 'Orange network' popping up all the time.

 

[ELLERS]

Japanese cars are on the whole rubbish they bring out a new model each month plus they look crap. We can buy French cars from Luton as they shown us how to make them properly and they are actually making a profit

English people today are useless engineers
They think they have skills but generally that is a thing of the past

booooo I watched a great BBC news item recently about how fab our engineers are and what great specialists we have in the UK. Next you will be telling us that our intelligence community is crap compared to France. That is something they will lose out on decent security. I have seen first hand how the French police work

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

As far as I know Willsman said something which compared Israel to the Nazis - is that racist ? It happens often that this or that state is given such an unfortunate comparison, but apparently Israel is immune from this. It may have been an idiotic comment, but I cannot see it as racist. The political system has this in common with the Nazis, namely that they see the nation state as an organic/racial/biological concept which nobody else can be a part of.

He accused the Jewish community of falsifying social media and being 'Trump fanatics' . Suppose he singled out Black Africans for being drug dealers. Would that be racist?

 

[DT’s Socks]

They laugh at our political record? When I am in France I visit sites where brave British soldiers gave their lives so they could be free from Germans.

Go and visit the places where the French invented underwater sprout farms

British soldiers were not all brave most where slaughtered by bad politics by us and poor decision making from the emery

Own goal there Ellers
We didn’t win the last war alone
The price France paid and sacrificed so you can make the comment above is wrong

Go and visit some others mate
They were all brave

 

[colognehornet]

I think it’s possible to innocently compare the two but the vast majority of the time people know what they’re doing.

If I were to say something like the North Korean regime are like the Nazis it would never be taken as a racist comment about all Koreans. The same applies to any other country with either a dictatorial background, or which is persecuting others, so why is this any different with Israel ?

 

[DT’s Socks]

booooo I watched a great BBC news item recently about how fab our engineers are and what great specialists we have in the UK. Next you will be telling us that our intelligence community is crap compared to France. That is something they will lose out on decent security. I have seen first hand how the French police work

I am special constable and secret sheriff as it happens

 

[colognehornet]

He accused the Jewish community of falsifying social media and being 'Trump fanatics' . Suppose he singled out Black Africans for being drug dealers. Would that be racist?

If he accused the entire Jewish community of something then he is either being misquoted or he is, indeed, being racist. But I have not seen the quotes on this.

 

[DT’s Socks]

booooo I watched a great BBC news item recently about how fab our engineers are and what great specialists we have in the UK. Next you will be telling us that our intelligence community is crap compared to France. That is something they will lose out on decent security. I have seen first hand how the French police work

What car are you driving now ?
My bet is a Morris marina in beige

 

[ELLERS]

Go and visit the places where the French invented underwater sprout farms

British soldiers were not all brave most where slaughtered by bad politics by us and poor decision making from the emery

Own goal there Ellers
We didn’t win the last war alone
The price France paid and sacrificed so you can make the comment above is wrong

Go and visit some others mate
They were all brave

Stop talking rubbish DT. Agree the French did pay a price...Just not the ones in Vichy France? It's taken me ages to get across this country with modern roads...The bloody Germans took less time. Don't go there.