Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Goldhawk-Road said:
Thanks, Nines. On the tweets, I thought there was something wrong with my computer!

Agree, Boris has got some explaining to do. For someone academically bright, he is incredibly loose with his language at times. Details are not his forte, which is concerning given his ministerial position.
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Seems that maybe the truth is what he needs to tighten up on. Who knows? It might all change once we hear from the OPCW, but at the moment, it seems that they have taken a stance based on false, or maybe, no information. Sounds familiar, ah yes, that's politics.

And incidentally, I have absolutely no issue with the way we discuss such events on here, debate amoungst ourselves is healthy and thought provoking, but it struck me all along that the mainstream media just simply followed the government line, never questioned it and in fact, virtually mocked anyone who did.
 
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BobbyD said:
Hero.

Honestly an armed burglary including a struggle on an innocent man. Obviously I don't know the circumstances of the burglars (poor life,robbing for food or just out and out thug) but I'm erring on the poor man who did nothing wrong but defend himself when he was getting robbed
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It's unusual to arrest for murder so quickly in cases like this so I think there are facts that haven't been disclosed yet.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
On the facts known, sounds like a hero. He's 78, and had to face two burglars, one pointing a screwdriver at him. This case leads on nicely from the debate I was having with Seagull on what is reasonable force.
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Yep, be interesting to follow this and see what the outcome is when the details eventually emerge.
 
One suspect went upstairs while the homeowner was forced into the kitchen by the second suspect, armed with a screwdriver.

protecting himself and his wife
not sure hero is the right word
 
kiwiqpr said:
One suspect went upstairs while the homeowner was forced into the kitchen by the second suspect, armed with a screwdriver.

protecting himself and his wife
not sure hero is the right word
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'Forced' being the key word here, you are allowed to defend yourself under threat. I'd have done the same in that situation if I could...
 
West WindsR said:
Unless it wasn’t.
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The fact that the person/s who did this have not been infected or been caught would say it was done by a highly trained assassin. Unless of course it didn't really happen and it is a tory plot to try and win a safe seat? Or was it the daughter?
 
ELLERS said:
The fact that the person/s who did this have not been infected or been caught would say it was done by a highly trained assassin. Unless of course it didn't really happen and it is a tory plot to try and win a safe seat? Or was it the daughter?
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**** knows. It was probably the Russians but that’s not really the point. The way we’ve pretended to have some sort of proof that is seemingly not there is bizarre and not really on.
 
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ELLERS said:
The fact that the person/s who did this have not been infected or been caught would say it was done by a highly trained assassin. Unless of course it didn't really happen and it is a tory plot to try and win a safe seat? Or was it the daughter?
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A highly trained assassin who has completely failed to assassinate anyone with a lethal substance. If you're gonna do it, do it right.
 
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ELLERS said:
Same as before. just because they cannot give the 100% evidence doesn't mean they didn't do it.
I don't believe what people are trying to say. It was a Kremlin hit.
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It was a dodgy link to start with, now there's no link and a load of bullshit from may and johnson, plus deleted tweets. So no, not 100% proof, no proof. That's all we've got to go on, given the media blackout. How are you still so adamant it was a kremlin hit?
 
ELLERS said:
Same as before. just because they cannot give the 100% evidence doesn't mean they didn't do it.
I don't believe what people are trying to say. It was a Kremlin hit.
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An awful lot of things don't add up about the whole thing. We'll never know what really happened imo but there are too many inconsistencies.
 
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