Looks like Labour are finally coming up with an agreed position on Brexit, with Keir Starmer saying that the Labour party is 'unanimous' in backing a post-Brexit customs union with the EU. This will very likely lead to a Government defeat on an amendment to the Brexit bill. Jake's not going to be happy.
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"Very likely lead to a Government defeat" is overstating it, Strolls. The general politico view seems to doubt that 30 or so Tory rebels will support Labour over this, if it could bring down the Government. Perhaps a dozen or so hardline like Soubry. Frank Field (Labour - Leave) thinks the Government will sail through with double figure numbers to spare.
If Corbyn does adopt the Starmer approach of BRINO, he can expect heavy losses up North in the next general election where there is huge support among Labour voters for Leave.
That’ll upset the ‘Corbyn is a traitor’ brigade’.....he must be doing something right if he ****s them off so much, that they just have to lie about him instead of attacking his policies.
Said it on another thread but you can be certain that if Corbyn is still about for the next GE there will be people shouting about him being a communist spy.
is this labours new position
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is this still jezzas position
Jeremy Corbyn wants power-sharing deal for Falkland Islands
Labour leader tells Argentina he’s in favour of Northern Ireland-style deal, while party spokesman says Labour is committed to self-determination
Press Association
Sun 24 Jan 2016 10.56 GMT Last modified on Tue 20 Jun 2017 19.01 BST
In an interview on the Argentinian embassy’s website, the outgoing ambassador to London, Alicia Castro, said Jeremy Corbyn ‘is one of ours’. Photograph: Nick Ansell/PA
Jeremy Corbyn has told Argentinian diplomats he wants a Northern Ireland-style power-sharing deal for the Falkland Islands, according to reports.
Argentina’s outgoing ambassador to London, Alicia Castro, said the Labour leader “shares our concerns” and “he is one of ours”.
In an interview published on the Argentinian embassy’s website, Castro said Corbyn had visited the Argentinian embassy in London and was “friendly and humorous”.
“He is saying that dialogue [is] possible and that attitudes are beginning to change, that what was achieved in Northern Ireland can be achieved also here,” she said.
“His decisive leadership can guide the British public opinion to promote dialogue between the governments of the United Kingdom and Argentina.”
The Labour leader sparked controversy in a television interview last week by saying he wanted discussions on “some reasonable accommodation” with Argentina.
While saying the islanders should have an “enormous say” in any discussions on their future, he stopped short of saying they should have a veto over any new arrangements.
A shift in Labour policy on the future of the Falklands would inevitably inflame tensions between the leadership and those on the right of the party. The shadow foreign secretary, Hilary Benn, made clear his opposition to such a move.
Asked whether Benn would support a plan for a power-sharing deal, a spokesman told the Sunday Telegraph: “No. The Labour Party policy remains that the people of the Falkland Islands have the right to determine their own future.
“We are committed to upholding the right of the Falkland Islanders to self-determination, including by ensuring the defence of the islands. Hilary is not aware of any proposals for what you have called a ‘power-sharing deal’ in regard to the Falklands,” he added.
Corbyn faced barracking over his comments from Tory MPs at prime minister’s questions in the House of Commons, where David Cameron reaffirmed the government’s support for the islanders’ right to self-determination and rejection of Argentina’s claim to the Falklands, which Buenos Aires has maintained since the 1982 war.
Jeremy Corbyn wants power-sharing deal for Falkland Islands
Labour leader tells Argentina he’s in favour of Northern Ireland-style deal, while party spokesman says Labour is committed to self-determination
Press Association
Sun 24 Jan 2016 10.56 GMT Last modified on Tue 20 Jun 2017 19.01 BST
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In an interview on the Argentinian embassy’s website, the outgoing ambassador to London, Alicia Castro, said Jeremy Corbyn ‘is one of ours’. Photograph: Nick Ansell/PA
Jeremy Corbyn has told Argentinian diplomats he wants a Northern Ireland-style power-sharing deal for the Falkland Islands, according to reports.
Argentina’s outgoing ambassador to London, Alicia Castro, said the Labour leader “shares our concerns” and “he is one of ours”.
In an interview published on the Argentinian embassy’s website, Castro said Corbyn had visited the Argentinian embassy in London and was “friendly and humorous”.
“He is saying that dialogue [is] possible and that attitudes are beginning to change, that what was achieved in Northern Ireland can be achieved also here,” she said.
“His decisive leadership can guide the British public opinion to promote dialogue between the governments of the United Kingdom and Argentina.”
The Labour leader sparked controversy in a television interview last week by saying he wanted discussions on “some reasonable accommodation” with Argentina.
While saying the islanders should have an “enormous say” in any discussions on their future, he stopped short of saying they should have a veto over any new arrangements.
A shift in Labour policy on the future of the Falklands would inevitably inflame tensions between the leadership and those on the right of the party. The shadow foreign secretary, Hilary Benn, made clear his opposition to such a move.
Asked whether Benn would support a plan for a power-sharing deal, a spokesman told the Sunday Telegraph: “No. The Labour Party policy remains that the people of the Falkland Islands have the right to determine their own future.
“We are committed to upholding the right of the Falkland Islanders to self-determination, including by ensuring the defence of the islands. Hilary is not aware of any proposals for what you have called a ‘power-sharing deal’ in regard to the Falklands,” he added.
Corbyn faced barracking over his comments from Tory MPs at prime minister’s questions in the House of Commons, where David Cameron reaffirmed the government’s support for the islanders’ right to self-determination and rejection of Argentina’s claim to the Falklands, which Buenos Aires has maintained since the 1982 war.
Political leaders past and present were invited by to pick their fave Matt cartoon to mark 30 years at the Daily Tel. Mr Corbyn‘s response was thus:
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Matt sent this to me and it's in my office @10DowningStreet. It exemplifies how great he is at taking major political events and seeing the humour in them. It’s always good for politicians to laugh at ourselves and he helps us to do that. Congratulations for 30 years @Telegraph.
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Matt sent this to me and it's in my office @10DowningStreet. It exemplifies how great he is at taking major political events and seeing the humour in them. It’s always good for politicians to laugh at ourselves and he helps us to do that. Congratulations for 30 years @Telegraph.
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Labour's Frank Field: "Voters will feel that yet again the political class has stuck two fingers up at them" if Corbyn calls for a Customs Union. "Any more mucking about with Brexit and Labour’s chances of forming the next government will go up in smoke."
Frank Field speaks a lot of sense. The irony is that he and Corbyn have historically shared the same philosophy - Euroscepticism. Corbyn must know that what he is proposing now - a customs union where we leave the EU but can still interfere with future EU policies if we think it in our national interest, and are free to enter our own trade agreements with the rest of the world - is utterly unachievable. He's going through the motions to keep his Remain MP's and his Leave voters on side. It's just smoke and mirrors.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/43202075
How easy is it to say that after the fact and from hundreds of miles away?
Such an egotistical pillock
How easy is it to say that after the fact and from hundreds of miles away?
Such an egotistical pillock
I have no idea......who can really say?
Whats whether i would go in or not got anything to do with Trump being a pillock?
Bravado from a man who dodged a Vietnam draft, while his peers were conscripted
You called him a pillock for saying he would have gone in, I just wondered if you were a pillock.
Well I think if my son were called up I would urge him to take a very long holiday back in England.
Over 500,000 people dodged the draft and did not go to Vietnam including
- George W. Bush.
- Rudy Giuliani.
- Mitt Romney.
- Ted Nugent.
- Newt Gingrich.
- Bill Clinton. ...
- Dick Cheney.
- John Wayne.
john wayne would have been in his sixties
i didnt realise the americans were so desperate for troops in vietnam
i didnt realise the americans were so desperate for troops in vietnam
I note that Justin Beiber was also missing from the list.