Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
sb_73 said:
Or we are really good at buying stuff. In fact we are the fourth best in the world at buying other people’s stuff, and the tenth best at selling our stuff to other people. Also I think that we don’t make the full range of stuff any more.
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You answered your own question, Stan, and I'm sure you're right. We are not a manufacturing force any more and unlike the Germans, we don't value engineers - any more, because once we were a great manufacturing nation. But the fact is, German industry needs our custom, and this must not be forgotten given that it will be Germany that will pull the strings at Brussels during the forthcoming trade talks - they need our trade and our £40 billion.
 
What do the following have in common?
USA
Jamaica
Canada
Pakistan
Iceland
Japan
Croatia
Brasil
Australia
Nicaragua
Ukraine
Russia
Trinidad and Tobago
Costa Rica
India
and probably loads of others?
 
Here's another question. When does a romantic advance become sexual harassment? Is it (a) when the man brushes his hand on the knee of the subject of his amorous intentions? Or (b) when the women (let's suppose it is a woman) rebuffs his advances, but he won't take "no" for an answer.

I'd say it was (b), but apparently, if the case of Damien Green sets a precedent, it was (a). Unsettling.

Sweden is proposing a new law, where both parties must give express consent before sex. It may not stop there. Since oral (in the legal sense) consent is hard to prove, it may well be necessary to have consent in writing. Before she pulls down her tights, and he slips the condom from his wallet, they need to sit down for these formalities. Furthermore, if she agrees to sex, but changes her mind halfway through, a revocation of agreement will need to be signed by both parties. Law courts should make allowances for some pretty illegible signatures...
 
sb_73 said:
What do the following have in common?
USA
Jamaica
Canada
Pakistan
Iceland
Japan
Croatia
Brasil
Australia
Nicaragua
Ukraine
Russia
Trinidad and Tobago
Costa Rica
India
and probably loads of others?
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Are they all countries, Stan? Do I get a prize?

Postscript: Bollocks, beaten to it by Paul :)
 
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GoldhawkRoad said:
They all have blue passports?
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That’s it.10 points.

Heard some faceless immigration minister going on about the return of the blue British passport at the end of 2019 earlier. Didn’t realise that it was way back in 1989 when we adopted the burgundy version, so many people will never have had an old style one. Although of course I have no sentimental attachment to the old style, I can understand it’s appeal to some people, though I hope it wasn’t a prime reason for anyone voting.

So it’s not unique and I hope the new version isn’t as big as it’s predecessor and omits the cringeworthy ‘Her Brittanic Majesty request....’ verbiage which only worked when you had a credible means of backing up your bombast.
 
GoldhawkRoad said:
Here's another question. When does a romantic advance become sexual harassment? Is it (a) when the man brushes his hand on the knee of the subject of his amorous intentions? Or (b) when the women (let's suppose it is a woman) rebuffs his advances, but he won't take "no" for an answer.

I'd say it was (b), but apparently, if the case of Damien Green sets a precedent, it was (a). Unsettling.

Sweden is proposing a new law, where both parties must give express consent before sex. It may not stop there. Since oral (in the legal sense) consent is hard to prove, it may well be necessary to have consent in writing. Before she pulls down her tights, and he slips the condom from his wallet, they need to sit down for these formalities. Furthermore, if she agrees to sex, but changes her mind halfway through, a revocation of agreement will need to be signed by both parties. Law courts should make allowances for some pretty illegible signatures...
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I would say when one of the parties involved feels that they are being harassed.
 
sb_73 said:
That’s it.10 points.

Heard some faceless immigration minister going on about the return of the blue British passport at the end of 2019 earlier. Didn’t realise that it was way back in 1989 when we adopted the burgundy version, so many people will never have had an old style one. Although of course I have no sentimental attachment to the old style, I can understand it’s appeal to some people, though I hope it wasn’t a prime reason for anyone voting.

So it’s not unique and I hope the new version isn’t as big as it’s predecessor and omits the cringeworthy ‘Her Brittanic Majesty request....’ verbiage which only worked when you had a credible means of backing up your bombast.
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Can't say the colour means a great deal to me, but agree the smaller size is preferable.
 
sb_73 said:
I would say when one of the parties involved feels that they are being harassed.
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The problem is, a subjective test would be incredibly difficult for any court, tribunal or in-house disciplinary procedure to apply. And the man would have no yardstick to apply, in distinguishing between a romantic/sexual invitation and harassment. I think there must be a demonstrable negative rebuff before harassment can be considered.
 
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