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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. WBA2_QPR3

    WBA2_QPR3 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how to upload videos from my phone
     
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    can you send it to your email and then copy and paste to here
     
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    You can't upload anything over 2Mb on here.

    You'd either have to tweet it, then post the X link on here, or upload to YouTube and post that link
     
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    I don't have any social media
     
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    This site is as social as I get too!
     
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  6. Stroller

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    Is that it then? If that's the full extent of Iran's response to the US attacks and there really is a ceasefire between Israel and Iran, it's a bit of a triumph for Trump.

    Can't be that simple, though, can it?

    Ah, wait. Israel's already accusing Iran of breaking the ceasefire.
     
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    I think Vance is dumber, more a bully and more illiterate than trump
     
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    Sir Michael Eavis, long term Labourista and fan of Corbyn, has shown these pesky farmers and family business owners how to do it. He’s transferred the shares he owns in the Glastonbury festival and it’s holding company to his daughter and a family Trust fund.

    Thus saving a potential £80m in inheritance tax. Power to the people!
     
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    So Trump's brilliant 'ceasefire' has crumbled after just a few hours and he sees his lusted-after Nobel peace prize snatched away again.

    'They don't know what the **** they're doing!', Trump said to live broadcast journalists, ever the diplomat.

    Netanyahu does.
     
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    Free speech....

    please log in to view this image
     
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    Fake news. This idiot was sent home because he admitted using drugs to immigration staff. This has been sufficient reason to refuse entry to the US for as long as I can remember.
     
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    It’s a bit like when Holloway made Bircham his assistant.
     
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    He looks like an AI generated person (thing)!
     
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    Never let the truth get in the way of a good story though
     
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    Never let the truth get in the way of a stroller rant
     
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    It's almost as if you can't believe what's in the Daily Mail these days. The individual involved said that the border officials got very agitated when they saw the meme on his phone, but then he also admitted having used marijuana twice in places where it was legal. It's legal in 24 US States of course, including New York, where this guy was detained.
     
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    I suppose it's a case of whether you believe the Homeland Security statement or not. The fact is, they can choose any reason they like not to let you in. Why anyone would choose to visit the US under this fascist administration is beyond me, though. EU officials that need to travel there are being given burner phones to avoid this kind of situation.

    The good part is that the Vance meme is all around the World now.
     
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    i thought everyone was starving and malnourished in gaza

    unless you are a journalist or activist it seems

    then you can go to beachside cafes for refreshments


    At least 20 Palestinians were killed in an Israeli air strike that hit a popular seafront cafe frequently used by activists, journalists, and local residents in western Gaza on Monday, according to medics and eyewitnesses.
     
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    Michael Rosen......

    ...and so to the Chief Rabbi.
    Here you go:
    "This is a time of national shame. The airing of vile Jew-hatred at Glastonbury and the BBC's belated and mishandled response, brings confidence in our national broadcaster's ability to treat antisemitism seriously to a new low.
    "It should trouble all decent people that now, one need only couch their outright incitement to violence and hatred as edgy political commentary, for ordinary people to not only fail to see it for what it is, but also to cheer it, chant it and celebrate it. Toxic Jew-hatred is a threat to our entire society."
    What he's saying is that what Bob Vylan said and did was 'vile Jew-hatred' and 'antisemitism'. What Bob Vylan said was 'Death, death to the IDF' and encouraged people to join in.
    For this to be 'vile Jew-hatred' and 'antisemitism' requires us to say that the IDF is Jewish and in some form or another represents Jews ie a verbal attack on the IDF is a verbal attack on Jews because they are Jewish - that's the essence of antisemitism (or indeed that's the pattern of most racism - the hostility is on account of that person or people being who they are.
    So let's ask ourselves, does 'Death to the IDF' mean hostility to Jews because they are Jews?
    I don't hear that. I hear hostility to an armed force and/or to the chiefs of staff directing those armed forces. I heard it as hostility on account of what those armed forces have been doing.
    Now back to the Chief Rabbi. Let's remember where he's coming from. In January 2024, he talked of the Israeli armed forces as 'our heroic soldiers'. For him to say this, means that he sees no line, no dividing line between him and the IDF. They are 'ours'.
    What this means is that the conflation or merging of IDF and 'Jews' is in his mind. It's not in the words that Bob Vylan chanted.
    Meanwhile, here's the Chief Rabbi in 2019, '“I am delighted to congratulate Boris Johnson, a longstanding friend and champion of the Jewish community, on becoming the next leader of the Conservative Party and our next Prime Minister. '
    'Longstanding friend and champion of the Jewish community'? Really? This is Johnson who created classic antisemitic stereotypes in his novel, and who platformed 'Taki' in the 'Spectator' - Taki, who received complaints from the Spectator's owner accusing Taki of presenting "the universal Jewish ethos as brutish, vulgar, grasping and cunningly wicked."
    So where are we?
    While the media (and me) are engaged in this debate over Bob Vylan, hundreds of Palestinians have been killed, maimed, orphaned, dispossessed and hounded out of homes and 'safe' zones. It's been one of the biggest and most successful examples of 'whataboutery' ever invented. 'Let's all look at Bob Vylan and not notice the massacre of Palestinians.'
     
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