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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Didley Squat

    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    Summary -

    Trump- As the worlds greatest liar, cheat and everything else you can throw at him, won, because he knows how to talk and say whatever needs to be said, at that given time.

    Harris - The longer the build up to the election, the more she got found out that she has nothing to offer, certainly hasn’t got the gift of the gab, like Trump…… so they elected him.
    Every picture of Harris, was her laughing, waving & giggling ….. she actually said squat.
    Plus, when you consider she has been Vice President for four years, what has she achieved? Nothing tbh. She didn’t want to go near the border.
    She would probably be a safer but weaker bet but with Trump, other countries will now toe the line, more. Time will tell whether he becomes the dictator they say he will.

    With Trump, he’ll either be great or bad, nothing in between.
     
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  2. Star of David Bardsley

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    I doubt he’ll bother with the full term. Couple of years and it’ll be the other bloke (Vance?).

    She was/is very meh. I know the actual number of votes isn’t everything but he was almost exactly flat to 2020. She managed to lose 11m votes from a not exactly inspiring Biden 2020 campaign, probably bolstered by the fact he wasn’t Trump.
     
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  3. kiwiqpr

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  4. Stroller

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    **** America, let them stew in their own racist, misogynistic, introspective juices.

    We must turn back towards Europe.
     
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    I’d quite like to have a good relationship with both. A fair bit of racism in Amsterdam this week too.
     
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    Yeah, not from their elected leader.
     
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    True but it’s pointless cutting off our nose to spite our face. The world’s not exactly short of questionable leaders so where do we draw the line?
     
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    Of course we will have to maintain some kind of relationship with the US, but It's pointless clinging onto the notion of a 'special relationship' with a Nation that's just stuck a metaphorical middle finger up to the rest of the World. A Trump-led USA will care for nothing but itself and the madness of Brexit was never more stark.
     
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    And America will get a new loony tune in four years
     
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    Started by Maccabi hooligans destroying properties flying Palestine flags, chanting vile anti Arabic songs and battering a taxi driver for having a pro Palestine flag. The Ajax ultras didn't protect them afterwards (as they had hoped) and so some of them got their just deserts from local Moroccans. All this could have been prevented if UEFA had done the right thing and stopped Israeli clubs from playing in Europe - like they did with the Russians.
     
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    Could get a bit interesting in Paris this week if the Israelis decide to start gobbing off...
     
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    Behave. It was a Jew hunt pre-planned with every wet self-proclaimed anti-racist doing mental gymnastics to justify it. They filmed it. The Dutch authorities were warned it was going to happen and did nothing. Yes Maccabi have hooligans like many clubs in these competitions. It was irrelevant to what came after.
     
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    Sorry the Dutch authorities did nothing to stop the behaviour of the Maccabi fans before the match - there are videos of the Dutch police watching the attacks on buildings showing pro Palestine sympathies and doing nothing.
     
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    And that’s wrong. Just as our new era of Hamas fans here attacking buildings with nothing done about it is wrong. It’s completely irrelevant to the premeditated assaults that followed on anyone they thought looked Jewish enough. You wouldn’t defend this against any other minority.
     
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    Was it right for Moroccans to chase after Israelis - No, did some of them deserve to be chased after - maybe. The truth is that the Maccabi ultra block relied on their previously good relationship to Ajax ultras (who are known as having a link to Jewishness (but not necessarily to Zionism)) and felt themselves immune because of this. Whatever the case - the only headlines the next day were all about Anti-Semitism and nothing else (which Maccabi fans knew would be the case because of our one sided media).
     
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    Yes because a premeditated Jew hunt and 62 people hospitalised by the local branch of the Hamas fan club is more important news than a flag being ripped down.
     
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  17. colognehornet

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    Did you conjure up the figure of 62 out of your head ? From all reports I have seen none of them have placed it at more than 10 . No need to exagerate to support your case. You also know well enough that Israel has national service and many of the male Maccabi hooligans will have had experience from the IDF as a result. There were also Mossad agents amongst them.
     
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    My bad. 62 arrests. I must have read it in those same reports that didn’t mention Maccabi fans doing anything.

    Mossad were present because Israel had intelligence on what was planned. The Dutch knew. They did **** all about it beforehand. They’ve apologised since.

    There’s not a case to exaggerate. You’re the one choosing to play it down when all serious reports now the full facts are known not from desperate grifters on social media reliant on engaging with Palestine hobbyists agree. There’s no ‘both sides’ angle here no matter how many Owen Jones columns we get on it.
     
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    Aha so 62 hospitalized has now become 62 arrests <doh>
     
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    Yes I got a number wrong. Almost as bad as trying to justify a Jew hunt probably.
     
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