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Perhaps, only the hard-of-thinking and desperate Tory haters were making a fuss out of it?
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Perhaps, only the hard-of-thinking and desperate Tory haters were making a fuss out of it?
When did Starmer tell working class people to rely on their own efforts?
When did Starmer moan about not being able to live on his salary? (Which was not £150k before he was PM)
You see, when you put lots of words in a sentence, all the words count. Not just a snippet.
Sometimes it is the overall sentiment/ underlying message that counts.
The fact is that Labour moaned that Boris had his wallpaper paid for by donors - yet when Starmer receives clothes for himself and for his wife, glasses etc paid for by a donor, you effectively say ‘nothing to see here, move on’.
As for Starmer’s income, he earned £128,291 from his salaries as an MP and leader of the opposition, and paid £44,308 in income tax in 2022-23.
He also paid £52,688 in capital gains tax on income of £275,739 from the sale of a field in December 2022.
That’s enough to buy clothes for himself and his wife, don’t you agree?
The donor is a Labour Lord and worked on his team during the elections.
Boris received millions from people buying favours.
There's a big difference, you're just too angry that Labour won the election to see it.
The JCB guy ****ed off owing £500M in taxes. He just happened to be one of Boris' major donors. Coincidence, no?
Starmer earned enough money to buy clothes for himself and his wife, don’t you agree? You didn’t answer?
Bamford was a Tory Peer and donor
Why do you think I’m angry that Labour won?
Yes, I didn’t vote Labour, but equally, I didn’t vote Tory either.
Over the years I’ve voted Labour mostly, once for the Tories and once for Plaid Cymru (just to try and help them get enough votes not to lose their deposit
) This time around, if ever there was an election where ‘None of the Above’ should have been on the ballot paper…..
I guess you must be desperately disappointed that after waiting 14 years for a Labour Government you get this lot
Starmer earned enough money to buy clothes for himself and his wife, don’t you agree? You didn’t answer?
Bamford was a Tory Peer and donor
Why do you think I’m angry that Labour won?
Yes, I didn’t vote Labour, but equally, I didn’t vote Tory either.
Over the years I’ve voted Labour mostly, once for the Tories and once for Plaid Cymru (just to try and help them get enough votes not to lose their deposit
This time around, if ever there was an election where ‘None of the Above’ should have been on the ballot paper…..
I guess you must be desperately disappointed that after waiting 14 years for a Labour Government you get this lot
Of course he did. I don't see a problem with it. I get freebies from work too, it's no big deal.
They're doing fine so far, plenty of improvements to be made but they're suffering the backlash of the butthurt right-wing media and Reform nonces, crying that they lost.
If you look beyond the pathetic headlines they're doing some good stuff. Plenty more to come.
As for the freebies, Labour/ Starmer came into power with a promise to be different from the Tories with respect to sleaze, and yet …..
Starmer earned enough money to buy clothes for himself and his wife, don’t you agree? You didn’t answer?
Bamford was a Tory Peer and donor
Why do you think I’m angry that Labour won?
Yes, I didn’t vote Labour, but equally, I didn’t vote Tory either.
Over the years I’ve voted Labour mostly, once for the Tories and once for Plaid Cymru (just to try and help them get enough votes not to lose their deposit
This time around, if ever there was an election where ‘None of the Above’ should have been on the ballot paper…..
I guess you must be desperately disappointed that after waiting 14 years for a Labour Government you get this lot
The thing for me is that it's ridiculously early to be passing judgment on this government, and the freebies thing, whilst disappointing, is just an irrelevant sideshow. The first budget will be revealing, and, as I've said before, I'll reserve my initial judgment until then. There have already been some positives, though. Settling long-running disputes with junior doctors and rail unions are concrete achievements and announcements on green energy investment, rail nationalisation, workers' rights, cutting NHS waiting lists and house building are all movements in the right direction for me. Let's see where we are in a year's, or better, five years' time.
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Bloody guardian and it's billionaire ownersIf only it were suits and Arsenal seats:
“….the prime minister for accepting more than £100,000 in hospitality and free gifts.
This includes clothing worth £32,000 and multiple pairs of glasses worth about £2,400 from Alli, as well as the use of an £18m central London penthouse……”
The above was obtained from that well known bastion of the right wing media ….. The Guardian
As for removing Sue Gray, it would be naive to believe that personnel changes alone can solve Labour’s challenges. The party’s weakness lies in its lack of a cohesive political vision.
After 100 days in office, the government has yet to provide a meaningful analysis of why Britain finds itself in such a dire situation, or what concrete actions are needed to address it. This would require holding accountable the individuals and institutions responsible. Without a plan, Labour has found itself pushing instead for cuts in public services and investment. This is precisely the opposite of what Labour voters elected Sir Keir to do.
In the apt phrase of the historian David Edgerton, Britain is in “a bad way”. Yet Labour’s response has been conspicuously absent. Where is the plan to address the deep inequalities in income, wealth and geography – not just for the sake of fairness, but to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of the economy? Labour’s disdain for the Conservatives is genuine, particularly when contrasting its commitment to the NHS with the neglect shown by the Tories. But to govern effectively, the party needs to do more than attack the last government; it requires a critical analysis of the broader economic and social landscape.
The above is also from The Guardian
That was all before the election. The only reason anyone knows about it is because he made everyone in the party report everything to ensure transparency. Lord Alli got nothing from it, he's a passionate Labour supporter and a gay Muslim, no wonder he wanted them to win.
Before the Election Starmer was saying that he was going to clean up politics whilst at that very time he was doing exactly the same…..
How very commendable of him.
Before the Election Starmer was saying that he was going to clean up politics whilst at that very time he was doing exactly the same…..
How very commendable of him.
FFS
It's not the same.
Two scenarios:
1. Your friend buys you a present
2. A client at work buys you a holiday
How are they both the same?
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Furthermore, Lord Alli held a garden reception at Number 10 during the time he had a pass, despite not having an official government role.
So is my friend Peter Hain but he doesn’t wander around Number 10, nor does he organise Receptions but there again, Peter’s not a Labour Donor.
It’s Perception and Optics
There we go, 'it's perception and optics'. No wrong-doing, but there's a perception that there is because the right wing press keep putting it on the front pages. It's the same as Farage saying there's 'a perception' of two-tier policing under Starmer. Yes, there is that perception Nige, it's because you keep banging on about it. It doesn't really exist.
It may be naive on his part, but one thing I like about Starmer is that, unlike Blair, he doesn't seem to care what the Mail and the Sun have to say about him.
But Stroller, the initial perception and optics lead to the subsequent revelation that Lord Alli had donated clothes to Sir Keir's wife, which the prime minister had initially failed to declare in his MP's transparency register.
That revelation prompted renewed scrutiny of his declared gifts, including £18,000 in work clothes and glasses for Starmer, and allowing the Labour leader and his family to stay in a property Lord Alli owns during this year's election campaign.
For someone who sought to claim the moral high ground, it is embarrassing.