Economic migrants travel to the UK through the EU. The Dublin regulation requires that “asylum seekers” have their claim registered in the first EU country they arrive in, and provides that the decision of the first EU country is the final decision of all EU countries. So the illegals coming to the UK should already have had their asylum claim adjudicated on, and been accepted by or deported from the EU country as necessary
Oh yeah, that's the EU regulation that I used to quote and that you dismissed as being unworkable. Anyway, we're not in the EU any more. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) is clear “there is no requirement under international law for asylum-seekers to seek protection in the first safe country they reach”.
What I’d said was, barely any illegals were deported under the Dublin Regulations, which is true. It makes no difference that we are not in the EU. All those camping in Calais should already have been processed, fingerprinted and their claim to stay in France accepted or rejected, in which case they should be deported to their country of origin. So you’re wrong, there are rules, but don’t let that tarnish the report telling Remainers how clever they are
There are rules, yes - UNHCR rules. You're quoting the rules of an organisation that you continually disparage and that we're no longer part of.
Dublin’s a tinder box at present, isn’t it, Nuts? Can never justify violence or wanton destruction, but I do sympathise with the general discontent based on what EU and the Irish Government is dumping on ordinary citizens. As in the UK, migration only works if there is a laser-like focus on integrating the incomers.
yea, the whole situation is a mess and will get worse. Small group of thugs who look for any excuse to cause serious damage. Kids stabbed last night. They are using the whole migrant issue as an excuse to cause mayhem. Ireland has taken a huge amount of both Ukrainians and migrants over the last 2 years. The country is full. No hotel rooms available anywhere. Availability of housing is non existent.
Been reading about the Conservative Party being challenged in the High Court by Tortoise Media that the Leadership election process of Conservative members (effectively a private member's club) chooses the next Prime Minister in the absence of an election, for the ruling Monarch to appoint (rubber stamp). Tortoise Media applied successfully for membership of the Conservative Party using aliases of an animal, a dead person and two foreign nationals. The challenge is not to overturn the outcome or even the method but the process should have some scrutiny to prevent such outcomes. The defence is that it is within the rules of the membership defined by the Conservative Party. Judgement to be delivered soon after the conclusion of the case on Thursday.
I was out working on the streets of Dublin last night and spoke to many people who were direct witnesses. Who started it? A man with a knife decided to attack 5/6 year old kids leaving a school around lunchtime yesterday. Three kids were stabbed, one is in a serious condition in hospital. The attacker has been an Irish citizen for over 20 years but was an ex-asylum seeker from Algeria. A teacher in her 30's tried to stop the attack and she was seriously injured. Disinformation and misinformation about the man's nationality spread amongst right wing groups on social media. They attended the scene and attempted to storm the crime scene as it was being protected by Gardai. The numbers swelled to about 500 and they proceeded to riot, loot shops and burn buses, trams and Garda cars. As this was happening, people with non-white skin were being attacked on the streets. Was it a domestic incident? As you can see from what I've said above, it was, but absolute scum hooligans decided to exploit the situation to suit their own ideology. There was a high profile murder trial on here recently where a Latvian man was convicted of murdering a young Irish teacher as she went for a run. Both of these incidents were mentioned on social media in an attempt to get the right wing extremists on the streets. There have been plenty of Irish on foreigner crimes and murders as well but funnily, they are never mentioned by the right wing. Who is behind the rise of the extreme right in Ireland? As Nuts said, we have taken about 100,000 Ukrainian refugees in the last couple of years as well of thousands of asylum seekers from other countries in Asia and Africa. In a housing crisis, this has caused resentment amongst some people. We also have programmes with the Chinese and Brazilian government's to allow their citizens to come here to learn English. I have seen estimates for Chinese of about 30,000 and Brazilians of about 45,000. Many of the Brazilians who have European Grandparents end up staying as a lot of them get E.U. passports. A number of people intervened as the kids were been stabbed. The man who disarmed the attacker was a Brazilian Deliveroo rider who used his helmet. The North inner city where the rioting took place has a lot of dis-advantaged estates where crime and drug issues are prevalent. Also in the same area, 70% of the people were born outside Ireland. There is a big clean up operation going on today. The Government have to take some blame as the streets in Dublin are severely under-policed. They will have to increase Garda numbers as the extreme right are calling for more of the same. Just to add, there is an anti-immigrant group called the National Party who are inciting a lot of this. Their leader is Hermann Kelly who is a buddy of Nigel Farage. Kelly is pro-Brexit, anti EU. There are ZERO anti-immigrant TD's (MP's) in the Irish parliament so their anti-immigrant views are not representative of the whole community. Conor McGregor is another who has been stirring things up by expressing anti-immigrant views on social media. This subject appeals to his type of supporter. I hope that helps you understand what is going on here. We need a tough response from the government to get the security situation under control and to ensure that Christmas shoppers and party goer's return to the city. Already, the foot fall in the city centre is way less than it should be, on Black Friday too when the retailers and hospitality should be cleaning up.
One further update. The Brazilian embassy are to award a bravery medal to the Deliveroo rider who disarmed the attacker of the kids. Also, a gofundme page has been set up to buy him a pint for his bravery. After 7 hours, the running total is 147,000 euros and increasing rapidly. This shows the true generous spirit of the people of this country. https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...rm=0-0&utm_testfeature=playvideo-202311241624 https://www.gofundme.com/f/buy-caio-benicio-a-pint
the recent growth of far right (ism) is very concerning. Sinn Fein will be voted in next year too. Uncomfortable times
This ****ing country sometimes honestly… https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ly-profiting-from-the-assets-of-dead-citizens
this is what happens when you need to rely on minor parties to form governments the new zealand first leader hates foreigners so we got this policy instead of the one on taxing foreign buyers of houses New Zealand smoking ban: Health experts criticise new government's shock reversal Published 5 hours ago comments Comments Share please log in to view this image IMAGE SOURCE,GETTY IMAGES Image caption, New Zealand in 2022 passed laws to restrict and eventually ban cigarette sales to future generations By Frances Mao BBC News New Zealand's new government says it plans to scrap the nation's world-leading smoking ban to fund tax cuts. The legislation, introduced under the previous Jacinda Ardern-led government, would have banned cigarette sales next year to anyone born after 2008. Smoking is the leading cause of preventable deaths in New Zealand, and the policy had aimed to stop young generations from picking up the habit. Health experts have strongly criticised the sudden reversal. "We are appalled and disgusted... this is an incredibly retrograde step on world-leading, absolutely excellent health measures," said Prof Richard Edwards, a tobacco control researcher and public health expert at the University of Otago. "Most health groups in New Zealand are appalled by what the government's done and are calling on them to backtrack," he told the BBC. A quick guide to smoking bans across the world The legislation passed last year had been acclaimed internationally with research models backing the key reforms. Measures included restricting the number of tobacco retailers, and reducing the level of nicotine in cigarettes. Modelling had suggested the Smokefree laws could save up to 5,000 lives each year. New Zealand's laws were believed to have inspired the UK government in September to announce a similar smoking ban for young people. A spokeswoman said Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's position remained unchanged after New Zealand's reversal. Will Rishi Sunak's plan to ban smoking in UK work? NZ set for right-wing coalition after National win Disillusioned New Zealand eyes shift away from the left While it has been praised as a public health policy, the Smokefree measures drew opposition from some business groups in New Zealand. Owners of newsagents and corner shops criticised the loss of revenue - even with government subsidies. Some lawmakers - including the new Prime Minister Chris Luxon - also argued a ban would lead to a black market for tobacco. However his National party, which won 38% of the vote in the 14 October election, hadn't mentioned the Smokefree laws during election campaigning. The announcement by the new finance minister Nicola Willis on Saturday that the government would repeal the laws shocked health experts who believed the policy would be untouched. But Ms Willis said National's partners in the governing coalition- the populist New Zealand First and libertarian Act - had been "insistent" on reversing the laws. Despite election victory, the centre-right National party has struggled for weeks in policy negotiations to form a government with the two minor parties. A deal was only agreed to on Friday, six weeks after the election, allowing the new government to be sworn in on Monday. New Zealand First - which won 6% of the vote - had been the only party to campaign on repealing the smoking laws. please log in to view this image IMAGE SOURCE,EPA Image caption, New Zealand's new prime minister Chris Luxon (centre) was sworn in on Monday with his coalition partners Winston Peters (left), leader of New Zealand First, and David Seymour (right), leader of Act Both minor parties blocked a flagship National policy to open up foreign property ownership - which the party had been relying on to fund tax cuts for middle and higher-income earners. Ms Willis said on Saturday that had led to the party looking elsewhere. "We have to remember that the changes to the Smokefree legislation had a significant impact on the government books, with about a billion dollars there," she told New Zealand broadcaster TV3's Newshub Nation. The laws still need to be actively repealed through parliament, where the government has a majority. "The suggestion that tax cuts would be paid by people who continue to smoke is absolutely shocking," Emeritus Prof Robert Beaglehole, chair of New Zealand's Action for Smokefree 2025 committee told Pacific Media Network. A national Māori health organisation, Hāpai Te Hauora, called it an "unconscionable blow to the health and wellbeing of all New Zealanders". Smoking rates, and associated disease and health issues, are highest among New Zealand's indigenous Māori population, for whom experts had said the policy would have the most positive impact. "The government is flying in the face of public opinion and obviously in the face of the vast majority of people who work in this field, health professionals, doctors, nurses," said Prof Edwards. Public health modelling conducted in 2022 had shown the Smokefree policy would have saved New Zealand's health system about NZ$1.3bn (£630m; $790m) over the next 20 years. New Zealand still aims to reduce its national smoking rate to 5% by 2025, with the aim of eventually eliminating it altogether. More than 80,000 adults have quit in the past year, its national data shows. Currently, about 8% of its adult population smokes. please log in to view this image
