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In certain Northern towns, Muslims will only sell to Muslims. It's how they create their unadulterated communities.
Please show me when we had high immigration before we were born, that compares with anything we've had in the last 50 years
I didn’t say it compares with the last 50 years but new ethnic groups generally will stick together for some time. The Jews did when they first arrived in big numbers and there was plenty of right wing vitriol about accepting them in the 40s too even in relatively small numbers.
I’ll have to take your word for it. Having been to probably every town/city among those with the highest % of Muslims in England I’m yet to find a business unwilling to take my money.
Not totally relevant but I think if there were more emphasis on languages in state schools there’d be far more demand for these things among working class kids. I was lucky my first Spanish teacher was great so even though the rest were **** it was one of the few subjects I cared about. Languages are still seen as a lesser degree choice at many unis and industries.
You're right about extreme Right Wing when Jewish people came here over the ages, but they've never come in huge numbers like immigration now, and as you say, there was outright racism at times, including Mosley's Blackshirts. Integration is everything. Integration of different cultures as well as people.
You didn't answer my question about whether you still keep Jewish traditions - because if you do (and I hope you do), it would be hypocritical to claim the British people have no culture to preserve
No I don’t think I do. I don’t do the festivals, don’t keep Shabbat, don’t keep kosher, don’t support Spurs, date a non-jew and I’m not a member of a synagogue. I don’t mind being jewish as it’s not like I have a choice but don’t think it impacts my life positively or negatively.
I did ask what British culture we aren’t keeping alive. Nobody is being stopped from doing anything. Culture evolves over time. If people aren’t doing whatever customs they were that’s their own choice surely.
It really isn't your duty.
Just move to a country that you don't so vehemently dislike.
Why have rows every time you meet up with your friends who happen to have a different world view to you?
Anyone would think that you like arguing........
You'd find racism in an empty room.
You never sound content.
How can you enjoy living in a country you dispise, among people you constantly disagree with?
British culture can be found in most cities and towns on a Friday and Saturday night.
I mix some ***e in with chocolate protein and berries. By far the most culture I experience.
It really isn't your duty.
Just move to a country that you don't so vehemently dislike.
Why have rows every time you meet up with your friends who happen to have a different world view to you?
Anyone would think that you like arguing........
I don't have rows, I have disagreements. And it's not every time we meet up, I exaggerated that. I wouldn't say I liked arguing, but if someone says something I disagree with, I will tell them. There's no animosity.
Elitist, or trying to get the best person for the job.
So do you want Lydon dykes and/ or Sinclair Armstrong to play in front for Rangers ( it might cost you 10or 29k a week.
Or do you want me ( I am underprivileged as I never had proper football training at school and discriminated against, as I am not allowed by gender to play in the EFL).
Yes a stupid example...but that is the crux.
Do you want to get the best person for the job...or do you want to " give someone a chance".
I did not come from a privilege background..my father worked in a factory, my mother had MS and couldn't work. . So please don't give me that elitism crap...it won't work on me
That's part of it, certainly. We don't bang people up for taking a drink or bury women up to their waists and than stone them for engaging in a bit of nooky.
We arent keeping alive...the " blackface" Morris dancers ...they are nearly all gone now.
Even mummers are watering down Good St George killing the saracen ( yes I know George was Turkish...but that doesn't affect a good mummers story).
Both of these are British culture that go back centuries...
Ah, right. My dad was Welsh too, from near Machynlleth. He got MS at 31 and died at 45. If I look at my family tree, all my relatives from that side of the family married cousins and so forth, in the same valley. I always thought that unhealthy.