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Thought this was the Politics thread? I didn't realise it had morphed into a game of BattleshipsZZZZZZZZ go away and talk politics Stroller as we are talking carriers!
you could call it politicsThought this was the Politics thread? I didn't realise it had morphed into a game of Battleships
side with the biggest ships win
Don't ships have something to do with politics?
If not I used to be a bit of a train geek.
OK lads, I was slightly wide of the mark by stating that Ukraine was a member of NATO.
They applied to join NATO in 2008. They were told they could not become members at a summit in Bucharest but that both Ukraine and Georgia would eventually become members. NATO agreed to provide assistance to help Ukraine achieve membership. In 2010 NATO and Ukraine co-operated in performing joint exercises. Ukraine therefore may not have been a member but they certainly had ambitions to be members and they were close allies of NATO. For NATO then to do feck all after the Russians breached their borders and supplied arms to the rebels and basically stole part of their sovereign territory by annexing Crimea even though they had been working with NATO and desperately trying to become members. WW2 was started for less.
My two basic points stand;
1. NATO did feck all to protect one of it's candidate member and close ally countries being invaded by Russia.
2. The Ukraine/Russia war was nothing to do with the EU.
They applied to join NATO in 2008. They were told they could not become members at a summit in Bucharest but that both Ukraine and Georgia would eventually become members. NATO agreed to provide assistance to help Ukraine achieve membership. In 2010 NATO and Ukraine co-operated in performing joint exercises. Ukraine therefore may not have been a member but they certainly had ambitions to be members and they were close allies of NATO. For NATO then to do feck all after the Russians breached their borders and supplied arms to the rebels and basically stole part of their sovereign territory by annexing Crimea even though they had been working with NATO and desperately trying to become members. WW2 was started for less.
My two basic points stand;
1. NATO did feck all to protect one of it's candidate member and close ally countries being invaded by Russia.
2. The Ukraine/Russia war was nothing to do with the EU.
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You give humanity a bad name. Why don't you take your smart remarks and **** off elsewhere you prat.
AhemFinglas because of your mistake I will have to buy you a drink next time we meet.
I make mistakes all the time
After a lot of hysterical reaction, a bit of common sense about the Blair speech....
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...s-brexit-speech-the-message-not-the-messenger
This is not a call to overturn the verdict of the people in last year’s referendum. It is a call to those who doubted the wisdom of that verdict to raise their political game, to find new arguments and new strategies fit for the post-referendum context. Context is everything. The path of severe rupture from the EU chosen by Theresa May was not the only possible interpretation of the referendum mandate. It is a road down which the prime minister has been steered by the most radical fringe of her party, bulldozing moderate opinion in Conservative ranks.
The Labour party’s acquiescence to Mrs May’s timetable articulates chaos and weakness in Jeremy Corbyn’s office more than coherent opposition strategy. In other words, the Brexit trajectory that Britain now faces is an accident of weak leadership on both sides. Other trajectories are available. To assert that fact is not undemocratic. The deeper offence against democracy comes from those Europhobic ultras who try to stifle every murmur of dissent with demagogic nationalism – as if reasonable Brexit-scepticism is no better than treason
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...s-brexit-speech-the-message-not-the-messenger
This is not a call to overturn the verdict of the people in last year’s referendum. It is a call to those who doubted the wisdom of that verdict to raise their political game, to find new arguments and new strategies fit for the post-referendum context. Context is everything. The path of severe rupture from the EU chosen by Theresa May was not the only possible interpretation of the referendum mandate. It is a road down which the prime minister has been steered by the most radical fringe of her party, bulldozing moderate opinion in Conservative ranks.
The Labour party’s acquiescence to Mrs May’s timetable articulates chaos and weakness in Jeremy Corbyn’s office more than coherent opposition strategy. In other words, the Brexit trajectory that Britain now faces is an accident of weak leadership on both sides. Other trajectories are available. To assert that fact is not undemocratic. The deeper offence against democracy comes from those Europhobic ultras who try to stifle every murmur of dissent with demagogic nationalism – as if reasonable Brexit-scepticism is no better than treason
Even when you get it wrong you take out on the messenger. Just say you got it wrong again and thats it..
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I am sick and tired of you stalking my posts on the board. I have you on ignore and I am trying to ignore your posts. I am demanding the mods take action against your constant put downs of me and your constant negative comments about my nationality. Kop yourself on.
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