Off Topic The Politics Thread

She may be entirely above board. She seems to have a trustworthy reputation. Nevertheless, if Starmer started offering her a senior role before or during the time that she was investigating Partygate, it would at the least be an incredible misjudgement on both their parts. She could not surely be the only suitable candidate for the Labour job.

 

Matt Hancock. He'd be independent

 

Almost like he's perfectly happy with Tory MPs going on TV and talking about Party-gate and happy to keep the conversation going.

Lord Geidt

 

Well, that's the Machiavellian interpretation of Starmer's refusal to come clean.

Geidt's bolt is shot!

 

Thank goodness we have an honest and open Shadow Leader. Not nervous or shifty at all in this interview, and answering all questions fully....

 

Does it actually matter? The ‘crime’ that was Partygate is proven beyond any doubt aside from the endless corruption, lies and incompetence of the government throughout Covid and before/since. As ever, you seem to hold Labour to an infinitely higher standard than your own party.

 

Yes, it does matter. If there is to be a report, it has to be impartial. Otherwise, don't bother with a report.

 

Do you think the original choice of Simon Case would have been impartial

 

It was impartial. All the Tories said so at the time.

 

So? Labour said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. New facts come to light

 

No, disaster

 

The facts are the same. Ask the Met Police. Or the Privileges Committee.

 

What's different is that Starmer may have been offering Gray a top job when she was just about to prepare, or was in the process of preparing, a highly critical report on Starmer's political opponent.

Starmer is looking sleazy and evasive over this at present

 

It wasn't a highly critical report, though. She let Johnson off too lightly.

 

That's your view.

 

Well, and Johnson's given he claimed the report vindicated him...

Do you honestly think a new report would be kinder given a Sunak Govt has a strong interest in making this report as bad as possible for Johnson?

 

Doesn't change the facts that Johnson partied while all other were not allowed to. Desperation from the Tories, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Boris Johnson would have claimed any report vindicated him. He'd have put his usual spin on it.

I'm not arguing from his perspective, but rather that any report on government prepared by someone who is simultaneously in negotiation for a top role with the opposition should be set aside on the assumption that it may not be impartial.

Of course, we don't know the facts of the negotiation because Starmer won't answer a straight question

 

I have no qualms with what you're saying. Just not sure the consequences will please anyone except Labour.

 

If Starmer was offering a job to Gray around the time she was preparing the Partygate report, it won't reflect well on him, which is why he's looking so uncomfortable when he's questioned....imho