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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. kiwiqpr

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    It’s a shame Poo-Tin has suspended the New Start agreement because I felt much safer at night knowing the Yanks and Ruskies were limiting themselves to only 1,550 long-range nuclear weapons each.
     
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    I think we should still be safe down here if that's all they've got
    And by the way
    We are full
    No room for anyone else
     
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    The definition of "woke" right there...
     
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    No..quite the opposite. Anti definition of woke



    Woke is also sometimes just used to characterize someone as “hip” or “open-minded.”

    I am proud to be woke
     
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    Well **** a duck
     
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    In my view, you need to rethink your understanding of the definition, Beth. Woke may have started out with its heart in the right place, but then, arguably, so did Puritanism in the C17th.

    However pious and righteous supporters feel, woke has become narrow-minded, illiberal, intolerant of other views, cancel cultural. People lose their jobs for wrong-think. Those that do not bow to the creed are "racist", whether race is involved or not. The label "woke" is to put oneself on display eg Megs and Man-baby. Woke makes problems rather than solves them, eg BLM continually telling it supporters they are victims and the enemy are those benefitting from "white privilege". It splits communities rather than fostering good will and tolerance. It's become a really damaging dogma.
     
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    What happens in a field, stays in a field!
     
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    FFS, I do find myself agreeing with you Goldie….on the flip side you have the word ‘fascist’ that seems to get thrown at anyone who doesn’t agree with the correct way of thinking.
    Both words used by different “wings” of the political factions as insults to the other
     
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    Aren't fascist and racist both terms used by Woke supporters? Woke are globalist, no-borders, Thunberg types, to be distinguished from the Red Wall working class left imo
     
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    That's your definition, Goldie. I'd say it's you that needs a rethink. Woke has become a pejorative term to be used by people such as you against anyone with socially left wing views. I've never declared myself to be Woke, I've only been called Woke by bigots and racists who don't like me objecting to their bigotry and racism.
     
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    That’s what I said.....you right wingers use “woke” to insult the Left
    The neo-lib Left use “fascist” to insult the Right
     
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    Not sure "Woke-me" uses those terms as frequently as you do Goldie.

    The definition of Woke I put up is a dictionary definition...and all it says is that Woke people are open minded...and there is nowt wrong with that...and if I really am open minded and so Woke...then I am proud to be Woke
     
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    The problem is, Strolls, one person's "bigot" is another person's "concerned about immigration, whether the amount or the dinghies". We saw from Gordon Brown's "bigot" comment about a voter expressing concern over the scale of immigration and the stress on her local services, that most of the rest of the country didn't regard that as bigotry. We saw it again when Corbyn got trashed in the GE. There's still a constant attempt to impose wokery by the so called "progessive far left", Momentum etc particularly in schools and universities. But increasingly, there is a fight back by those with, in my view, common sense, that won't give into this form of extremism.
     
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    I see what you're saying, Stainsey. Yes, probably. But you'd need quite an imagination or ignorance of history, to call someone concerned about illegal immigration with its associated public safety implications, a fascist.
     
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    Nothing wrong with being tolerant and open-minded. The problem is, Beth, that in early 1930's, the definition of fascism was a love of one's country and admiration for a strong leader. The book definition and what happens in practice are often two different things.
     
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    But that’s what’s being done. No side is innocent of childish name calling.

    Apart from me of course
     
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    Well, speaking for myself, I shall continue to call woke people, "woke" and hope it doesn't insult them!
     
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    Anyone fancy a go at this next year ? :emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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