Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Goldhawk-Road said:
So you're saying the right to an all-out strike comes before the lives of members of the public...[/QUOTE You really are a peculiar fella. Ask yourself how and why we have got to this point. You can blame COVID, Putin, Megan markel whoever you like but these hard working, life saving people are on strike because they literally have no other option. They are being forced into poverty through political choice. This never needed to happen just like your lot tanking the economy, just think what that could have paid for or the 37 billion, yes billion on track and trace or the millions upon millions given to rich Tory donors in fraudulent corrupt deals. Piss poor management of the country and it's finances, the priority of the rich getting richer is what this lot are about. They are scum, there's no other word for them.
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qprbeth said:
Because a tube driver is responsible for the lives of several 100 people ( e.g Moorgate disaster) and a traffic warden doesn't...perhaps Goldie
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Moorgate was nearly 50 years ago, Beth, and caused by driver error! In any event, that might explain why a tube driver is paid more, though not why he or she have expontially greater leverage during an all-out, no restrictions strike. The answer is surely, it's just circumstance. Some occupations mean they can have their foot on the nation's neck when demanding what they want.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Moorgate was nearly 50 years ago, Beth, and caused by driver error! In any event, that might explain why a tube driver is paid more, though not why he or she have expontially greater leverage during an all-out, no restrictions strike. The answer is surely, it's just circumstance. Some occupations mean they can have their foot on the nation's neck when demanding what they want.
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It demonstrates why a tube driver is paid more....because he is responsible for life...and ensures people get to their destination safely.

That is exactly why they have more leverage and so they should.


Do not be obtuse Goldie
 
qprbeth said:
It demonstrates why a tube driver is paid more....because he is responsible for life...and ensures people get to their destination safely.

That is exactly why they have more leverage and so they should.


Do not be obtuse Goldie
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As I say, I agree it is why they're paid more, but - the only reason they have more leverage, is that they can prevent other workers from working, by nature of their job (less so, since WFH admittedly).

That has traditionally given rail and underground unions disproportionate leverage.

Social workers can save lives. But if they strike, everyone else can still get to work.
 
qprbeth said:
It demonstrates why a tube driver is paid more....because he is responsible for life...and ensures people get to their destination safely.

That is exactly why they have more leverage and so they should.


Do not be obtuse Goldie
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Do bus drivers get paid the same as tube drivers then
 
kiwiqpr said:
Lot more variables on the road than on a track
Maybe bus drivers need to be paid more
Doesn't one of the tubelines not even have drivers
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I believe the dockland light railway is.

But it was built from scratch to be driverless.

Not sure the complexities of the circle line could cope with driverless trains
 
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