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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

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    Tory thinking has always been about exploitation for their own gain
     
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    It's been about belief in the individual and inspiring them to reach their full potential - which is why Starmer has done such a dramatic U turn from Corbyn's Palestine Liberation Front of Islington, to thinking about British workers and not wanting to see their wages undercut by cheap labour. That is, if he's genuine. Blair said similar and then opened us up for migration to the whole of the EU. Gordon Brown felt the backlash from voters.
     
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    Yeah sure it is…..you continue to doff your cap, while those ****s laugh at you behind your back, giving each other back handers…leaving you the crumbs at the table so you keep coming back.
     
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    ...would have been a perfectly reasonable line in 1900.
     
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    Its where they want you to be….and like a mug you’re happy to be there.
     
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    It was the Tories that got us out of the EU parliamentary gravy train, and all its corruption at the top and supply of cheap labour to the wealthy individuals and companies in the the big member states.

    Starmer pressed hard to ignore the referendum and have a "People's Vote", because those that had voted for Brexit were apparently not "people"
     
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    Just ‘cos I wanted out of the EU, like most of my kind, because of the things that you mention, Please done believe I owe your lot something and should be grateful….it was always a means to an end. Your mob are still a party of the rich, a party of greed and a party of helping no one but themselves.
    The plan is coming to fruition
     
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    There are a few rotters in the Tories. It's power that corrupts. Look at New Labour.

    But if Being a Tory was that bad, why is Starmer dead set on becoming one?
     
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    Because Labour have abandoned their working class roots and pandering to the centre/right of the party.
    That’s pretty obvious I would have thought.
    However it’s a step forward from the Tories so going in the right direction
     
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    It was Corbyn that abandoned the working class and the voters shafted him in the 2019 election.

    Starmer has become New Labour, though without the same conviction. He's bland, is the best I can say about him.
     
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    You’re talking like I’m a supporter of Labour
     
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    Brown lost because he called a bigot a bigot. Bigots don’t like hearing other bigots being called bigots because deep down they know they’re bigots.
     
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    Bigot you to say so...
     
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    Yeah, most of the nation supported the woman he called a bigot.

    Apart from a handful of head-up-the-arse, no-border ****ers :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    More like 1 in 3 but democracy isn’t your strong point.
     
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    Are you talking about Browns disdain for the voting public by being caught off microphone calling a life long supporter of Labour a ‘Bigoted Woman’ ? Don’t you see that sort of hatred for working class people, just because they dare to voice concerns about unfettered immigration, is precisely what turned people against what the Labour Party had become ?
    A bit like that fat **** of lard Thornberry slagging off “white van man”
    They can’t even disguise their hatred of us
     
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    He called her a bigot, in private, for her bigoted opinions. I don’t know what more you could ask of him. The alternative was Cameron and just enough stupid ****s chose him instead.
     
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    His masked slipped and people saw him for what he was......tell me what did she actually say that was “bigoted” ? How dare she voice concern about anything that the elite have agreed on...how ****ing dare she !!!!
     
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    Without bothering to trawl the web for an exact quote it was something non-sensical about Eastern Europeans on benefits I believe. I was happily studying in Spain at the time.
     
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    So she voiced concern about uncontrolled immigration from Eastern Europe that was happening at the time ? So then is she not allowed to be concerned and has to conform to what the elite want ?
     
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