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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    Agreed mate…..maybe our kids, saddled with vast student debt should use the same excuse.
     
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  2. Stroller

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    The same Kwasi Kwarteng who co-authored a book (along with Dominic Raab, Liz Truss, Priti Patel and some other Tory, who somehow didn't make it into Johnson's Cabinet) called Britannia Unchained in which British workers are described as being 'among the worst idlers in the World'? Unlikely.

    The book suggests that we should learn from economies like Hong Kong and Singapore, where, of course, workers' rights are far less protected than ours were whilst we were in the EU.
     
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    Let’s not start this again Strolls…….we just go round in circles
     
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    The way I read it, and I have no more access to info than anyone else these days, are the sanctions will cripple Russia, but it may be too late to save Ukraine. The Russians have had a change of tactics in the last few days, moving from trying to take the cities to trying to wipe them off the map - a worrying escalation that shows Putin is getting impatient.

    Putins demands for peace are a big slap in the face for Zelensky, but I think he'll have to agree to most of them if he wants a country left once this is finished....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60785754
     
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    If I was a Ukrainian, and have seen my friends killed and my cities destroyed…and know facing decades of rebuilding….I would struggle to accept any peace deal that wasn’t completely in my favour
     
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    I'm not going to stop commenting on it, mate. Feel free to ignore them.
     
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    I agree all those people are ****ers, but I don’t think our Labour laws have changed yet Strolls, sure I would have heard the uproar. It seems that P&O have broken the law, the question is will they just be told off (Shapps has already done it), get a little fine which it makes it worth breaking the law or get properly punished. No prizes for guessing what I expect…..
     
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    No, our labour laws haven't changed significantly yet, but we didn't leave the EU so that we could offer workers more protection. Fire and Rehire is perfectly legal here, and not particularly uncommon, so I guess P&O just haven't followed the process properly. There'll be no significant punishment. .
     
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    But you get upset when I come back at you. You’re misguided if you think this would be any different if we remained in the EU. It’s a red herring often used by Neo-Liberals
     
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    I don't think you know what Neo-Liberal means. One of the arguments for leaving the EU was to do away with 'red tape' - i.e. Deregulation.
     
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    Do you think the P & O mass sackings would have happened if we were still in the EU ?
     
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    They could have done, but that's not the point I was making. The EU sets a relatively low bar on workers' rights (aka Red Tape), but one that can be raised by individual member States. Several EU members made Fire and Rehire illegal, but we didn't. As I said, we didn't leave so that we could improve workers' rights.
     
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    So what point are you making then ?
    We were never going to have better workers rights under a conservative government….but that doesn’t mean it was better to stay in the EU…which as I’ve said many times, is not a friend of workers and more on the side of big business.

    As I’ve said before…..we go round in circles
     
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    @Staines R's couldn't see anything about ambulances, hut I know that you'd be on the first convoy if you could

     
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    Despite the thousands spent on a top class education, dining clubs and food fights, the man is clearly an imbecile.
     
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    What a ****.
     
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    He suffers from terminal 'Foot in Mouth disease'...
     
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    He suffers from being a fully fledged ****er
     
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    We’ve got 10 ambulances going from the LAS, all filled with bandages and medical supplies. I volunteered to go as would be a great adventure but unfortunately for me, the response was fantastic from our staff and the spaces filled quickly. Great to see
     
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