All major Countries have very questionable foreign policies and secret services. I guess one has to choose the lesser of the evils. In China, Russia, North Korea etc you would be in big trouble for criticising your own Country publicly. Doesn't make our actions right, or others like the USA, but try living in these other places.
There is “choosing the lesser of two evils”, Col….and there is arming and abetting genocide and killing for our own gain, both territorial and financial. Doing the latter, as we have done for decades and still continue to do, doesn’t sit right with me personally.
The Americans came into the Pacific war before Stalingrad but not the European one which was what I said if you had read my post accurately. It was by no means clear after Pearl Harbour that America would become involved against the Nazis as well - this only happened after it became obvious that the USSR would win. The fact that American cities were never bombed, and its civilian population wasn't targeted plays an important role here because that is the main characteristic of modern warfare - namely that there are more civilian casualties than military ones. This is not meant as an argument against America, just that they have no experience of the type of total war which other countries have suffered. They have never seen their cities in ruins - those that have know more about the realities of war.
I'm with you on your historical view of the US Cologne, but not so sure that is the outlook of the current Biden administration or even Trumps. They have left Afghanistan, yes in a hell of a mess, and Biden seems to be making it clear they won't be fighting in Ukraine themselves even though support is being given to the region. They have become more insular, no longer want to be the Word's policeman they say. How long it will last we don't know, but it maybe not too long if Russia does take Ukraine or China Taiwan for example.
I believe that China, Russia and others are worse than us, both with foreign policies and human rigjts etc. I agree it doesn't make it right, whoever does it. What winds me up is people (not you) who criticise only the West, whilst living here. Dismantling Western Democracies is high on many of these people's agendas imo.
US soldiers started arriving in the UK in Jan 1942. US aircraft started bombing Nazi Germany in July 1942. Your dates are all out.
Mate, the West has many things that are great and we should be proud of what this country has achieved….and also I agree the human rights record in countries like China and Russia are also appallingly bad. However, what gets to me is the painting of us in the West as being the “knights in shining armour” and wanting to spread goodness throughout the world….we really ain’t.
I din't disagree with some if your points, but what about the North Africa campaign (early 1942) and Italy (early 1943) - plenty of US involvement in both of them.
The USA joined WW2 as a direct consequence of Pearl Harbour where 2400 Americans were killed. Not that you'll care about that. The Americans were keen to stay out of the conflict in 1939, but already then there was growing concern about Hitler. After Pearl Harbour public opinion was hugely in favour of joining the war. As Goldie says, your history is all over the place and your hatred of the West clear for all to see.
Never seen their Cities in Ruins? New York pal, 11/9/01. Huge shock for them all right, and they then went after the wrong man, Saddam
