Off Topic The Politics Thread
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Is that why the US has overtaken the EU as the main destination for financial services exports from the city? Or that China has overtaken the US as the EUs biggest trading partner?
You are sounding more desperate these days Stroller. I'm awaiting one of your fantastic predictions for the future elections.
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I did this recently with traffic lights and failed.
Youre not alone EllersI did this recently with traffic lights and failed.
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but JRM put his feet up and social media went into meltdown.
Why keep banging on about Mogg when he and his party have done hundreds of worse things before and since?
OK, here you go....
The Tories will lose North Shropshire.
Johnson will go before the end of 2022.
The Tories won't get an overall majority in the next GE.
You will be the last person in the UK to admit that Brexit was a mistake.
I will keep this to remind you at a later date.
https://www.racingpost.com/sport/no...dems-could-take-former-tory-stronghold/526081
Captain Hindsight.
Ignore this, just using the board to clear my head.
Just given myself a little antidote to all this crap by reminding myself that we are all victims of hypernormalisation. We know our politicians aren’t in control, we know they lie to us to give the impression that they are in control, and we go along with it, because the alternative - radical change - is just too scary to contemplate.
But will hypernormalisation keep the floodwaters back? There are now millions of people who know that the old promise of capitalism and it’s modesty screen liberal democracy isn’t working for them. It was meant to make their lives better and it isn’t, but it is conspicuously enriching some people. Capitalism/democracy doesn’t offer anything more than the possibility (no guarantee) of material improvement and a kind of ersatz individual freedom (within very strict limits unless you can buy your way out of them), no visions of something better to aim for collectively, no sense of belonging. The terrifying ideologies of left and right provide that vision, but always with the caveat that many will need to be forced to obey in order to deliver the bliss of the vision. I thought these old ideologies were dying, like old religions, that the void of fake individualism had won, but now I’m not so sure, many people betrayed by capitalism/democracy yearn for a vision. At the moment visions promised from the right seem more likely to gain followers, but ultimately they have the same impact as ideas from the left.
So, continue as we are, hypernormally, try to tinker with capitalism/democracy to make it limp on and hope that we are improving lives for everyone, go back to the old promised land ideologies, or try to imagine something new?
Keep your eyes on the middle class, the ones who have done alright economically. If some of them start attaching themselves to big ideas, even involving sacrificing some of the things they have got, then change might actually happen.
Or the whole thing might just be a con. Politicians of whatever breed are only there to make us angry, to generate clicks and posts, to add to the coffers of the tech companies…….
No answers here, at least in terms of politics. Adam Curtis has a lot to answer for…..
Just given myself a little antidote to all this crap by reminding myself that we are all victims of hypernormalisation. We know our politicians aren’t in control, we know they lie to us to give the impression that they are in control, and we go along with it, because the alternative - radical change - is just too scary to contemplate.
But will hypernormalisation keep the floodwaters back? There are now millions of people who know that the old promise of capitalism and it’s modesty screen liberal democracy isn’t working for them. It was meant to make their lives better and it isn’t, but it is conspicuously enriching some people. Capitalism/democracy doesn’t offer anything more than the possibility (no guarantee) of material improvement and a kind of ersatz individual freedom (within very strict limits unless you can buy your way out of them), no visions of something better to aim for collectively, no sense of belonging. The terrifying ideologies of left and right provide that vision, but always with the caveat that many will need to be forced to obey in order to deliver the bliss of the vision. I thought these old ideologies were dying, like old religions, that the void of fake individualism had won, but now I’m not so sure, many people betrayed by capitalism/democracy yearn for a vision. At the moment visions promised from the right seem more likely to gain followers, but ultimately they have the same impact as ideas from the left.
So, continue as we are, hypernormally, try to tinker with capitalism/democracy to make it limp on and hope that we are improving lives for everyone, go back to the old promised land ideologies, or try to imagine something new?
Keep your eyes on the middle class, the ones who have done alright economically. If some of them start attaching themselves to big ideas, even involving sacrificing some of the things they have got, then change might actually happen.
Or the whole thing might just be a con. Politicians of whatever breed are only there to make us angry, to generate clicks and posts, to add to the coffers of the tech companies…….
No answers here, at least in terms of politics. Adam Curtis has a lot to answer for…..
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Did you know about all that?
Because I didn't, so someone has kept that quiet. What about all this 'one rule for them'?
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I think the clue is in the headline mate. All been suspended, charged disciplined etc as they should be, as everyone should, or you can choose to try cover something up, change the rules to suit or lie.
I think Kiwi shared the same meme a few months ago so I knew about it.
Maybe the Prime Minister is bigger news than a random councillor.
I do think the point has been spectacularly missed or maybe just a little jest on someones part. Correct me if im wrong but if someone does something that breaks the rules/laws/guidelines and gets away with it then thats when it becomes 'one rule for some'. When they get punished then they are in the 'same rules for all' category. Hope that explains it