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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. Staines R's

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    I tried to pay for my lunch with “applause” yesterday.........got told to **** off
     
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    next time try bulldog spirit apparently that’ll see us through
     
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    What I really need is that now we’ve left the pro austerity EU, is for you all to support a true socialist party willing to stand up for the workers and make a fairer and more just society.
    Labour has become a ‘Tory lite’......vote WPB !!!
     
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    He doesnt bother me enough to hate him. Hes just very childish in his comments. Take him with a pinch of salt like the majority do. Back to your original question mate, I think the vast majority have seen what front line staff have had to go through and although a strike would be undesirable, if it's the only way then it becomes a 'forced option'. I personally wouldnt blame anyone in the NHS for striking if they cant get what they truly deserve.
     
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    I think that's the key right there Goldy. It's from within the party and right leaning people to pull the government on this.
     
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    You obviously didnt have enough claps in the bank!!!
     
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    Do you think the public would support it though Bob ? I’m in a lucky position that I’m reasonably financially secure and even though I know the basic ain’t great, I don’t have to rely on overtime to make my pay up......sadly many of my colleagues do and any industrial action would effect t(em massively.
    Striking is a real option for me and I’d embrace it...losing a few quid wouldn’t hurt me that much if it’s for the greater good. I just think the MSM would have a field day of we did....pretty much what they did when the Fire Brigade took action. Make us out to be lazy and undeserved of anything
     
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    Nobody could argue that mate, especially after what the NHS and front line staff have gone through. I wouldnt support it but I certainly wouldnt blame any for striking. These are the jobs that should be rewarded with a superb salary. What is more important than saving lives and making people better?!!
     
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    The correct technique is to wait for the shop owner to place the Chinese lunch on the counter, give him half a minute's worth of applause, grab the hot containers and leg it!
     
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    Most NHS workers have been under paid for as long as I can remember.
    I don't think many would argue against a massive pay rise.
    However, as for striking; that would happen against the backdrop of the country being in unparralleld debt.
    Not sure we can afford anyone to have a pay rise right now.
    Tough one.
     
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    Don't think there is anyone on here who wouldn't support NHS workers given the current work and sacrifices made but that wasn't your question was it? Public mood can switch over time and sometimes very quickly. Especially when the government starts spinning to the Tory press. When it begins to affect significant numbers of the population and we start reading stories about violent picket lines and callous paramedics who refuse to go out to a scene of crime or accident and lives are lot, the mood may soon change. Previous strikes in the public sector have shown that.
     
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    Agree its a tough one.Everyone wants them to receive a decent wage. It will probably be revised at the upcoming review.
     
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    Except if you’re an MP Col. Just seems on the face of it that a lot of money has been wasted and given out in naff contracts during this pandemic.....money that could have been far better spent giving the staff a decent pay deal
     
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    Totally correct. They did it to the fire fighters with their stories of callous brigade members refusing to attend incidents etc etc...so no doubt the same would be done to us.
     
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    Don't disagree with any of that mate.
     
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    I'd put money on it and it's not just Fleet Street. Even institutions like the Beeb, that bastion of left wing bias (so I'm told) and pc thinking (no argument there) can't resist a good interview with the bereaved who will be looking for a real person to blame for the loss of their loved one
     
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    Spot on. To be honest I’ve seen it done many times when “callous BA workers, earning fortunes” ruined people’s holidays, weddings, seeing loved ones etc etc by taking strike action.
    If they only realised what these young people earth and the conditions they worked under they might think again.
     
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    depends how the media want to angle it. There will be people for you and people who will be against you (you only need to look at how pushy people are to hospital staff and the abuse you get even in this day and age). Its all down to how the media want to paint you guys and they will find whoever fits their narrative.

    Me personally, i understand why you would want to do it.
     
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    For starters, why the hell have they further extended the stamp duty on houses to continue heating up a housing market. They could rein that totally in. can't remember what the figures were but why do we need to continue having more and more expensive housing and not get tax on these sales on it?
     
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