Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I haven't even mentioned the Kranky yet.... Those posts will be fun

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Goldhawk-Road said:
Your summary is fine for me, Ellers. Thanks

The contractual position appears to be that AZ agreed to use its best reasonable endeavors to provide the EU with vaccines. The EU is saying, ah yes, but there is also a clause in the contract by which AZ confirms that its deal with the EU doesn't conflict with any agreement with another party ie the UK.

However, senior English lawyers are saying, it doesn't conflict. The goods the EU are trying to get their hands on came about as a result of the UK contract with AZ 3 month earlier than the EU. There was no conflict, if anything the UK contract helped the EU because AZ started developing the vaccine earlier.

The EU is now applying authoritarian measures to stop vaccines due to the UK and others leaving the jurisdiction of EU member states.

This dispute will be headed for the courts but don't ask me which f*cking court it will go to. Not the ECJ surely as that will not be impartial. The Commission is coming out of this debacle covered in ****
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Mrs Rangercol voted remain and was very upset with the brexit result.
However, she is starting to see the EU in a completely different light now and I'm sure many, many others are in the same position.
They are, always have been and always will be a protectionist, corrupt, bullying outfit and since we left, they are showing their true selves to more and more people.
 
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rangercol said:
Mrs Rangercol voted remain and was very upset with the brexit result.
However, she is starting to see the EU in a completely different light now and I'm sure many, many others are in the same position.
They are, always have been and always will be a protectionist, corrupt, bullying outfit and since we left, they are showing their true selves to more and more people.
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Same in this household Col.
 
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rangercol said:
Mrs Rangercol voted remain and was very upset with the brexit result.
However, she is starting to see the EU in a completely different light now and I'm sure many, many others are in the same position.
They are, always have been and always will be a protectionist, corrupt, bullying outfit and since we left, they are showing their true selves to more and more people.
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Exactly right, Col. I'm hoping the electorate in member states see the light (I think they will) and thought is given to a looser, respectful relationship based on trade and not run by One European State zealots and jobsworth bureaucrats
 
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The contractual position appears to be that AZ agreed to use its best reasonable endeavors to provide the EU with vaccines Correct if you consider reducing by over 60% the supply to Italy a best effort...
 
It simply a commercial decision as vaccines in the EU are sold at less than 2 euros and brasil these days ready to pay 5 or more
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
Exactly right, Col. I'm hoping the electorate in member states see the light (I think they will) and thought is given to a looser, respectful relationship based on trade and not run by One European State zealots and jobsworth bureaucrats
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am going to change my 10 year EU collapse to 5-7 years.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Even some EU officials are getting concerned by the Make Germany Great Again tone emerging
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My mate who works in Germany is always saying that many Germans think they would be better off out of it?
Surprised when they seem to take full advantage of the crap states? The project was doomed as soon as we left. I can see a few obstacles to start with but we will be okay in the future. Italy will be next to leave the Euro and then fully.
 
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West WindsR said:
Do we benefit from this hypothetical collapse of the EU?

I appreciate it would be extremely exciting even if we don’t.
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The best thing for the whole of Europe is this crap organisation to fall... which it will. Then we can get together as free trading nations which is what it was supposed to be about. From there we can organise a new relationship.
 
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