Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Goldhawk-Road said:
I find it stunning that this report comes from a country that has virtually no benefit system and no national health system, about a country that has one of the most generous benefit systems on earth. Which is partly why all the illegal immigrants want to come here.

If children are going hungry in the UK, there must be an enquiry into where the benefit payments are going
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West WindsR said:
I don’t think that was ever realistic for long but we still don’t test people on arrival or require a negative test to enter. You can fill out a little form if you fancy and we might send you a text though.

It seemed a simpler time when Jenny Harries (where has she gone anyway?) said mass testing wasn’t appropriate for countries like us.

Anyway, the Home Secretary said this morning we’ve been consistently ahead of the curve and proactive so I’m just going to re-read ‘1984’.
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I didn't realise the UK weren't requiring negative tests for people entering the country. I find that quite shocking as I know someone who has gone to Burkina Faso and Ivory Coast for Christmas, and she needed a negative test result before leaving France, to ensure she'd be let in on arrival.
 
Sooperhoop said:
I think what is crystal clear is that Drakeford and Sturgeon will use every opportunity to undermine Boris for whatever reason to score cheap political shots, they would have known what would be announced today and timed their 'interventions' for maximum effect.

Once again the ineptitude of the whole Christmas 'plan' is this government in a nutshell, instead of decisive leadership we have blandishments that are the perfect excuse for a free for all under the guise of confusion...
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YorkshireHoopster said:
Yes.. A very long time ago when it was rather more generous. I hope you never do have the experience. But if you do I hope you think about it before you talk again about our generous welfare system.
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I'm more than happy to admit my ignorance on how generous the UK welfare system is or is not, and am genuinely interested to understand more. I suppose everything is relative. It may be generous for immigrants from Africa or Middle Eastern country, but does not compare favourably with some parts of the EU, particularly France, Spain, the Low Countries and Scandinavia. I accept this probably explains the need for free school meals in the UK in the holidays and the importance of work from those like Marcus Rashford.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
I'm more than happy to admit my ignorance on how generous the UK welfare system is or is not, and am genuinely interested to understand more. I suppose everything is relative. It may be generous for immigrants from Africa or Middle Eastern country, but does not compare favourably with some parts of the EU, particularly France, Spain, the Low Countries and Scandinavia. I accept this probably explains the need for free school meals in the UK in the holidays and the importance of work from those like Marcus Rashford.
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One of the biggest challenges is knowing what you are entitled to claim and how you go about doing so, particularly when many claimants are already at a disadvantage, be it basic English and Maths skills, physical disability etc

I'm grateful that I've never had to call on any of the various agencies for assistance

As a side point I would urge anyone on here who is 50 plus to undertake a state pension forecast online and to check that your NI contributions record is correct. Mine was but my partners wasn't, and it could've cost her £20 a week reduced pension
 
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